Thread: Please Buff 2.4 Dungeons

You guys need to think about others too. How about each one of you whining for more hard, challenge content, step out of your little static and put some pf or df for mog ex and twintania? Im sure you guys will have lots of fun and joy, really. Coil is there for you, even a more harder version of it. Stop trying to get everyone to eat hard content. Not all of us have a luxury of a static.

^whining for hard content, hmmm...

We can do SCoB once per week, even the harder v. locks us out from the regular & vice versa.

That's ALL the difficult end-game content this game has for those who enjoy a good challenge.

I don't think it hurts to ask (not whine, that was rude) for a harder dungeon option, e.g. Savage Dungeons.

As soon as there is some relatively harder dungeon than others the players start to whine about how "ridiculous" it is. SE dumb down the dungeon and "give us harder dungeons" show up in forums.
As I see it the Syrcus tower and last 3 hm dungeons were designed with thought to have something not that hard but at same time something that would force the braindead people to finally learn at least some simple game mechanics. So, yeah, SE tries to make the game playable for all type of players but at same time they try to force players to get better too.
My favourite is Stone Vigil HM - still can see ilvl 90+ tanks ragequit when healers heal them just enough to not get all mobs on them, dumb dps with Novus that can't even use simpliest combos etc. Most fun is last boss - it require you to walk around it and kill it, haven't seen easier boss mechanics yet they are "ridiculous" for many people.

In my opinion, the latest batch of dungeons were just about the ideal difficulty. In terms of sheer mob damage output they are kinda week compared to the average group, but in terms of actual fight mechanics they can surprise you. Just looking at the final boss of each dungeon, Giruveganus has a whole bevy of unmarked AoEs requiring you to memorize its 'tells', and then be able to split your attention between two bosses who can't be tanked; Avere Bravearm, while himself a simple 'tank-and-spank' boss, is supported by AoEs all over the place and a massive AoE that you can't tank through unless you actually pay attention to said massive AoE's gimmick; and even now, I still wind up with the occasional random ally in Hullbreaker who doesn't realize that the green symbol over them means they need to move to a different island or else there's a very good chance we'll wipe. And, of course, everyone has their own horror stories of horrible ST runs.

As FFXIV goes forward, I imagine SE will come up with increasingly interesting fight mechanics that are a combination of "Pay attention to this gimmick or you all die" and "You can tank through this but it'll hurt" fight mechanics, allowing for difficult dungeons without ever having to actually buff the minimum required iLvl past what can be easily attained by 'casual' players.

Just my two cents on this subject.

With bigger rewards that only you guys gets, no less, uh? Nice.

Originally Posted by Metatronn

With bigger rewards that only you guys gets, no less, uh? Nice.

Did I say that? No. Please stop trolling this thread now if you're just gonna be rude & presumptuous.

im just offering you the other side, everything is beautful when you have a static. Try to put yourself in the others place and see what it is like.

Basically what the 10% of elite raiders are saying here is that they want to take the pve content away from the 90% casual player base and make it so hard that its impossible to complete except for the 10%. Plus you want ilvl sync so the casual 90% player base also has no meaningful progress in their mmo. You guys have to get out of your elite hardcore bubble and realise that the majority of the player base only has dungeon capping and ct/st for pve content and you still want to take it away from them and basically say you get nothing for pve.