dissapointment with gamescon interview

[Tupsi]

They said awhile ago..Atma grind will be eased "no sooner than 2.3", meaning at any time from now until ARR shutdowns it can be adjusted.

[Velox]

1 Atma = 3 months, 2 hours per day, 3 days per week...

that is impossible misfortune.

Mathematically improbable, but not impossible.

Let's say atma has a 3% drop rate (although we don't know the exact drop rate, calculations taken given people's experiences leans it towards the 2-3% range). For every FATE you do, you have a 3% chance of obtaining an atma crystal. This means you have a 97% chance of NOT obtaining an atma each FATE you complete. Now, what safeguards are in place to prevent someone from falling into the 97% every FATE he/she does? There are none. In fact, purely mathematically speaking, there exists the probability that you could do 1,000,000,000,000,000 FATEs and not get a single atma, because you just happened to fall within the 97% every one. The odds get smaller the more you do, but it never approaches 0%, and thus, can screw people over.

This is why the system should have never been purely RNG-controlled. A safeguard should have been implemented day 1. Something like, "if you don't obtain an atma crystal within the first 300 FATEs, the next FATE will guarantee you one," or "The atma drop rate starts at 1% and increases by .5% every FATE you do in a single area and don't find one." Either of these implementations, while would require extra variables to track, would at least guarantee the player achieving his/her goal.

[Tsuwu]

I got all mine in just over 20 hours of grind.
Wasn't that bad.

Don't really get where all the QQ surrounding them comes from.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I was lucky, ergo, it's impossible to get very unlucky

[ExiaQuanta]

Well pple CAN always go the whole UAT > Sands > Soldier Wep way. I mean thats an i110 weapon in less than 1 month.

[monochromicorn]

some of the people who get atma quick have no idea the kind of pain it is. i have done 2 hour (3 on the weekends) sessions of non-stop fates. im not waiting for a certain one, as someone advised me not to do. im not putting in a little bit of time, and im putting in way more effort towards atma than a lot of people. and its not about it being easy, im not expecting that either, but it should be possible without this level of grinding. it is a viable, feasible weapon, one we will most likely continue to build upon. the problm is that its been broken almost since the day it was implemented. since i got my first zenith, i have grinded fates for a total of (lets round by a few days, and drop the extra hour on the weekends) 90 days X 2 hours per day= 180 hours. if that isnt enough fate grinding, and ive only had my 1 atma since the last friday. so, lets say they do fix it soon, does that mean i should be happy that theyve taken so long to fix something that is so obviously broken?

[monochromicorn]

Well pple CAN always go the whole UAT > Sands > Soldier Wep way. I mean thats an i110 weapon in less than 1 month.

i got my 110 for my pally in a 2 day (mon/tues) hunt grind. its isnt about getting gear, its about how theyve let i go for so long the way it is, like it really isnt important how unhapy people are with something that allows them to put so much time in for no progress. they dangled it in front of us, and made it to where it is completely independent of the amount of work you put in for it. the ability to have it costumizable at later stages is another of its draws.

[bbkkristian]

Took me three days to get all of the atma. It should have simply been a do x number of fates for your atma instead of relying on the RNG gods.

Yeessss. Completely agreed. Give us a list of fates to do, I'd rather rely on their spawn rate than the atma RNG.

[DefendPopPunk]

Given the nature of RNG, it's possible that you can spend an entire play session and not get anywhere with atma. For some people, that's being generous, as they've gone days, weeks, months without getting the drops. That's why I never bothered with it. I dislike logging off and feeling like I didn't really do anything but waste my time, because let's face it, FATEs aren't exactly fun or rewarding.

[Noshpan]

It took me over two weeks of FATE grinding before my first Atma showed up. I was lucky with RNG to get the other five over the course of 1-2 days. I still have six more Atma to go.