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  1. #11
    Player
    Avatar de WellFooled
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    aot 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Doranaux Wavemet
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par monochromicorn Voir le message
    the worst response people give is how they introduced other ways to get gear, and they have, but thats now what this is about. atma, and higher, is supposed to be a viable option for upgrading your weapon, but because its so based on luck, its next to impossible.
    Viable is another word for feasible or workable, what viable doesn't mean is equivalent. The Atma relic is a feasible weapon to obtain (just look at how many people already have it), but that doesn't mean it has to be just as easy to get as other powerful weapons.

    That said, I don't believe Square Enix has ever come out and said that the relic weapon chain is supposed to be considered easy or even viable. So I think what's happening is that some of us may be coming up with our own ideas of what the relic weapon is and then when what we imagined doesn't match the reality, we get disappointed.

    Can I ask, why do you feel so strongly about the Atma quest? You talk about people quitting over this, but the relic weapon is just a single item in an entire game. What makes this one thing worth quitting over?
    (3)

  2. #12
    Player
    Avatar de Odd
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    mars 2011
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    Gridania
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    Tiri Thon
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Danseur Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Seibah Voir le message
    Okay, good for them. But it still doesn't change that asking questions about atma isn't exactly the first thing on many people's minds when it comes to interviews with Yoshi-P with all the alternative methods to getting i100 and the amount of community members who have their atma weapon already.

    Plus they already said it would be eased in the future, so it would have just been another "we already know this" question, which people already have grilled the gamescom interview for.
    Fair enough. I thought you meant we just don't care enough anymore. That's what I get for posting 5 min after waking up!
    (0)

  3. #13
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    Avatar de Mugiawara
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Astromancien Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par Ahmbor Voir le message
    1 Atma = 3 months, 2 hours per day, 3 days per week...

    that is impossible misfortune.
    There has been people who have been working on Atma since it was released and never received it lol.
    After hearing numerous horror stories. I decided to not bother, because I ain't going to be subbin' for x months to play with the RNG gods
    and the grind is a tedious snooze fest.
    They are alternatives, but I still feel like I'd be far behind...playing catch up at this rate will suck since there isn't many
    FATE runners nowadays where I'm at.
    (1)

  4. #14
    Player Avatar de Ahmbor
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    V'ayne Mayathi
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Mugiawara Voir le message
    There has been people who have been working on Atma since it was released and never received it lol.
    After hearing numerous horror stories. I decided to not bother, because I ain't going to be subbin' for x months to play with the RNG gods
    and the grind is a tedious snooze fest.
    They are alternatives, but I still feel like I'd be far behind...playing catch up at this rate will suck since there isn't many
    FATE runners nowadays where I'm at.
    I get 3 atma in 40 minutes... only the last atma took a long time... 3-4 hours stretched on 3 days.
    (0)

  5. #15
    Player
    Avatar de Odd
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Danseur Lv 90
    I guess it's that easy for everyone. Right?

    WRONG!
    (4)

  6. #16
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Occultiste Lv 60
    My only disappointment is that the following questions weren't pushed

    Dual Wield ability for Gladiator
    A Skill enhancing "system" (preferably through materia)
    What are the current plans for Golden Saucer

    Yet in general it's just simply that all interviews spend nearly a real big chunk bringing up a topic that's been discussed to death.

    I'm amazed that, despite having all the time in the world interviewers have, Yoshida gets a lot more done through live letters.

    Yet in the subject of Atma rates it is something you have to invest actual time in. You'll leave everything to chance when you farm so little a day. If you really want to push atma then you're gonna truly have to FATE grind at minimum of 12hrs a day.
    (1)
    Dernière modification de Gormogon, 17/08/2014 à 22h53

  7. #17
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    Ren'li Heise
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pistosabreur Lv 80
    Not gonna talk about if the atmas are good or bad content, just gonna leave some tips here, if you do less than 12 fates in 1h you're doing it wrong, if you wait for a fate to pop you're doing it wrong, certain atmas are known for being hard to obtain, the ones dropped in areas with beastmen quests, there are more fates and occur more frequently, but the drop rate seems lower.

    But if you're tired of the atma farming, i'm sure there will be more walls for ppl who is not whiling spend a lot of time, the first one after the atmas will be the materia part. The way SE is handling the relic quest chain makes me think it will be if not the best weapon one of them, nothing we should expect to be fast and easy, and if this is SE's idea, i'm sorry but i don't want it broken by complains, aim to something else or accept it'll take time, may be years for a casual player.

    This said, i have my pld atma weapon and i'll do it again for the nin, no matter how much time it takes.
    (1)

  8. #18
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    Avatar de Appleh4x
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    Aka Kitsune
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 51
    Citation Envoyé par Ahmbor Voir le message
    1 Atma = 3 months, 2 hours per day, 3 days per week...

    that is impossible misfortune.
    You don't know how RNG works I take it. One of my atmas took 43 hours of straight fate grinding before I gave up, then another 3 when I went back to finish it. 46 hours for an Atma is bullshot
    (6)

  9. #19
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    Avatar de Felis
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    mars 2011
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    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Ahmbor Voir le message
    1 Atma = 3 months, 2 hours per day, 3 days per week...

    that is impossible misfortune.
    In short ~ 48 hours for 1 atma
    But don't ask me how many FATEs she did in the 48 hours.
    (1)

  10. #20
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    Avatar de Reokudo
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    novembre 2011
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    Ryu Gier
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    Took me three days to get all of the atma. It should have simply been a do x number of fates for your atma instead of relying on the RNG gods.
    (3)

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