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  1. #51
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    Numenor1379's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Well, as far as i'm concerned, there isn't really an argument. If you want the best DPS, go Spellspeed/Det. If you want crit and not as much dps, go spellspeed/crit, crit/spellspeed or crit/det. If you want to prepare for 2.4 raiding, go spellspeed/acc.

    Or if you are silly, put piety on.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ive_web#gid=50
    It's crap like that which puts you firmly in the Troll category. Go prove that the very slight Piety increase isn't a dps increase. I have never seen anyone do any math on it, not even Puro. You make statements belittling others for their build choices where they have given valid and sound reasons for it. The only crap that matters to you is theoretical output that in real world applications is far overshadowed by RNG and player error.

    I don't give a damn how good of a BLM you are, you are arrogant and condecending.
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  2. #52
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    Harold Saxon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    It's crap like that which puts you firmly in the Troll category. Go prove that the very slight Piety increase isn't a dps increase. I have never seen anyone do any math on it, not even Puro. You make statements belittling others for their build choices where they have given valid and sound reasons for it. The only crap that matters to you is theoretical output that in real world applications is far overshadowed by RNG and player error.

    I don't give a damn how good of a BLM you are, you are arrogant and condecending.
    I've given you the link, if you want to not read it that is your choice. RNG and player error affects crit builds far more than they affect spellspeed builds, as i've gone into earlier in the thread.

    I'd rather be arrogant and right than ignorant and wrong. Facts are facts, and if you don't want to read and look into it, then don't claim you are right. If you have any hard evidence or math, feel free to link it.

    I also think you need to look at your definition of a troll to. Constantly arguing something that is completely incorrect isn't trolling, but posting facts and evidence is? Ok.
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    Last edited by HaroldSaxon; 09-11-2014 at 06:53 AM.

  3. #53
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    Adamantium's Avatar
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    Adamant Ackerman
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    It's crap like that which puts you firmly in the Troll category. Go prove that the very slight Piety increase isn't a dps increase. I have never seen anyone do any math on it, not even Puro. You make statements belittling others for their build choices where they have given valid and sound reasons for it. The only crap that matters to you is theoretical output that in real world applications is far overshadowed by RNG and player error.
    I feel like you and Harold are arguing from different perspectives, honestly. Harold is very focused on SCOB (where you would have a SCH in your group most of the time anyway), and you are speaking from a perspective in which you don't always have a SCH (in other content). If I were to step into Harold's shoes, I would also think that throwing 8 points of Piety into your Novus is a waste because, assuming PuroStrider's stat weights are accurate, you would be trading almost 1 1/2 INT worth of secondary stats, if not more, for something that would be going to waste when a SCH is present. Going 29 INT/1 PIE on your attributes and putting the rest of your Novus stats into something-not-piety would give you more DPS.

    That said, I would venture to say that if you (in general, not you specifically) are not currently progressing through current raid content and/or have no plans to, the stat distribution on your Novus for max DPS isn't really something people should be stabbing each other over.
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  4. #54
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    Olorin Bustyoas
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    Sargatanas
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    It is done at last.. woo!



    T6 Min Accuracy Build (Hat and Ring unweathered):

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  5. #55
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    grats Olorin. And despite what others say i still love and am keeping Scylla Robe as well until high allagan stuff. Instead of you guys arguing over who is correct just post your stats you have with your build. So what is your final acc, crit, etc. with your build?
    Arguing is in no way helping the op or others curious about stats. Myself rng has been a real pain in the bleep to get atma so have the sold weapon instead, but myself i would go Crit, SS and some det.
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  6. #56
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    Haji Noirterel
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    Goblin
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    The weapon has 40 spell speed on it already the most you can gain is 4 any amount added that's less than 40 will subtract from the 40ss that's on it already. Seem like a waste a alexandrite after the fact but its whatever. I regret adding any spell speed to my staff.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeOne View Post
    The weapon has 40 spell speed on it already the most you can gain is 4 any amount added that's less than 40 will subtract from the 40ss that's on it already. Seem like a waste a alexandrite after the fact but its whatever. I regret adding any spell speed to my staff.
    SSPD is the best secondary stat to stack as a BLM. 4 more is 4 more, not maxing it is doing yourself a disservice.
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  8. #58
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeOne View Post
    The weapon has 40 spell speed on it already the most you can gain is 4 any amount added that's less than 40 will subtract from the 40ss that's on it already. Seem like a waste a alexandrite after the fact but its whatever. I regret adding any spell speed to my staff.
    That's not how Novus stats work. If you put 44parry/31skillspeed on your Stardust Novus, that's all it's going to have.
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