Thread: Patch 1.18 Lancer's "Twisting Vice"

Does anybody know how much TP it removes?

In the past, Twisting Vice was able to interrupt an enemy's TP move before it could be used.

Now? It's worthless!

They nerfed Twisting Vice way too much. The lancer's raison d'etere has been destroyed with this nerf, and now there is very little purpose to the Lancer in terms of TP suppression. In fact, if they had kept the strength of Twisting Vice intact, it would have given parties more of a chance against the Doomvoid endboss in Dzemael Darkhold.

Honestly...this makes me a sad kitty.

Nerf bat!!! >.<

Twisting Vice No longer reduces a target's TP to 0

Restore Twisting Vice's TP-to-zero ability, but increase the recast time. Problem fukkin' solved!

Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

In the past, Twisting Vice was able to interrupt an enemy's TP move before it could be used.

Now? It's worthless!

They nerfed Twisting Vice way too much. The lancer's raison d'etere has been destroyed with this nerf, and now there is very little purpose to the Lancer in terms of TP suppression. In fact, if they had kept the strength of Twisting Vice intact, it would have given parties more of a chance against the Doomvoid endboss in Dzemael Darkhold.

Honestly...this makes me a sad kitty.

its not worthless, it can still be used to interrupt TP attacks, though down to zero was very nice it was OP as hell.

Originally Posted by Krausus

its not worthless, it can still be used to interrupt TP attacks, though down to zero was very nice it was OP as hell.

I agree, I saw Twisting Vice getting dinged long before the patch. It makes sense, it was an OP ability. We still have Speed Surge FTW. But yea, Lancer with the changes has become a very viable top DD contender.

I just want to know how much it takes off to see if it is worth while...not share opinions guys

Originally Posted by MiNuN

I just want to know how much it takes off to see if it is worth while...not share opinions guys

God forbid opinions be expressed on an open, online forum.... The blasphemy!

And the patch hasn't even been fully accessible for 24 hours, give people some time to set up some parse results and drill some information from the game. People don't instantly know these things the moment the patch hits. In fact, I doubt this little tidbit of information will be known for a while short of a dev post, which is very unlikely.

I thought what they would do is make twisting vice lnc specific. it was definitely broken when used on my arc. i could vice from miles away. what i think they should do is make vice lancer only reimplememnt the 0 tp and increase the cast time like SilvertearRen said.