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    Official Open World PvP Petition

    While this is not a feature that is high on my priority list, and there are a few threads already in existence discussing the possibility, Yoshi-P states here that he will consider adding a single server dedicated to open world PvP if the players express enough interest (right at the 8 min mark). I figured that it would be a good idea to centralize the discussion around the point that he mentioned in the video in a single thread.

    So, for those who would like to petition for at least one server offering open world PvP, like this post to let the devs know you are interested.
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    Depends on what kind of Open World PvP.
    If it just the same Game where Players can hit each, no thank you.
    Never been a fan of it.

    Id like to see something similar to GW2 with sieges and stuff, where players can build there own stronghold with different properties like Defense Tower or Supply Base which gives different Bonuses if Connected with other bases.
    Since frontlines, is in my opionion at least, a success and pretty balanced and more importantly really tactical im kind of seeing yoshi being able to do something like that and i know yoshi hates Crafters but building Bases, sieges e.t.c would give Crafters also a role.

    I dont see this happening though but id like to see something like this as i really like frontlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsuhide View Post
    If it just the same Game where Players can hit each other...
    From what I gathered that seems to be what they're referring to. I don't know how they would work it out lore-wise since we're all supposed to be in this together, but I like the idea of being able to fight out in the open. Personally, I'm ambivalent but I know there are others that would like to at least have the option. Will there be enough support to open up a server for it? I have no idea, but I'm interested to find out who and how many are interested.

    I suppose another alternative would be to implement a PvP flag that allows you to have the option on all servers. Don't like to PvP? Don't flag yourself for it. WoW used this back in the day (and I assume they still do).
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    Would very much support this.

    Looking at stuff like the different region population or overall interest in PVP there would be a bunch of problems probably. Assuming they'd go for one PVP server for each region (NA, EU, JP) I'd be unsure if atleast the EU server would provide a large enough player base to have a healthy economy and such.

    Now let's say the player base is large enough etc they need to figure out what kind of OWPVP they want to implement:

    *Ganking is fun, on the other side there needs to be a lowbie protection. Assuming you'd flag yourself so you can kill anyone - and be attacked by anyone(being able to attack anyone just like that without being flagged will probably not happen) - you can add a certain amount of points for every lowbie killed, those points disappear after a certain amount of time and until those points are gone you stay flagged. (Stolen from Tera)

    *FC vs FC would be cool, give some rewards for a certain amount of wins like mounts/pets/vanity/whatever else that keeps people doing FC vs FC. I'm sure an exclusive housing area or an exclusive plot in the Mist etc for lets say the top three FCs would be motivation enough. That would need a ranking system though, maybe monthly based or something. Problem with that is feeding kills and such, that would need to be prevented somehow before the system goes live. Also, safezone hugging needs to be taken care of: assuming player A from FC Y kills player B from FC Z FC Y would just stay in town til the FC vs FC timer is over so they'd win with one kill. (Also kinda stolen from Tera)

    *Overall tracking kills/activity, create a ranking, give the top ranked players exclusive titles/mounts/minions and such. Again, stuff like that has to be monitored so feeding doesn't happen. (probably stolen from Aion, dunno)
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    No thanks.
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    Go check Yoship's interview on gamescom, he made his stance on World PvP. Yet, no matter how you sugar coating the World PvP, it is just a pointless tanking fest with no skills involve.

    Don't think this is the first thread about World PvP and the number of players dislike the idea is much greater. The chance of you seeing World PvP is next to none.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 08-16-2014 at 08:16 PM.

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    haha, ya, no thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    Go check Yoship's interview on gamescom, he made his stance on World PvP. Yet, no matter how you sugar coating the World PvP, it is just a pointless tanking fest with no skills involve.

    Don't think this is the first thread about World PvP and the number of players dislike the idea is much greater. The chance of you seeing World PvP is next to none.
    That is the video I linked. His stance is that while personally he likes the idea, he thinks the players have some reservations. If there is enough support, he will implement the option. As I said, I'm completely ambivalent (sure, I enjoyed ganking people in WoW every once in a while but it's not something I'm dying to see in FFXIV) and of course this isn't the first thread on open-world PvP. I offered this thread up with a link to the video and the opportunity to put in one place all the "thumbs up" for yesterday's proposed solution: create a single server where open-world PvP is allowed. While this isn't my number one priority, I support the option for those who are interested.

    For those of you who don't like Yoshi-P's proposal, just ignore the like button, move on and let this thread die.
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    Last edited by Shake0615; 08-16-2014 at 11:34 PM.

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    I'm all for pvp. Pve we got enough.
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    Before 2.3 I would have asked what the point was, but now that there are contested fates while lvling up and contested hunts while max level then I think it could work.

    Of course in order for it to then you'd need to make fighting other players take higher priority than just ignoring each other and focusing down the mob for full credit (like how FL is in the middle). If this doesn't happen, then people won't fight over anything that's contested so what's the point? That's where most of the fun is.
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