Invisible walls are a bit overboard.

[Tupsi]

Oh gods. First we get a huge influx in "1.23 was amazing" people, and now we have people like you that actually have the audacity to say to 1.0 was good?

Sorry to burst your bubble but quite a lot of ARR is still utilizing concepts introduced in 1.0 and the few updates shortly after, so the fact a lot of the foundation systems in ARR are 1.0 systems, he is correct - 1.0 was good, the concept in itself was amazing. The issue was it being unfinished and pushed out despite the director/producer saying it wasn't ready.

Also, don't say something like this:

I do not think "good" means what you think it means.

Good is subjective. You may like ink spaghetti and say it's good, I can say it's the most disgusting thing to ever exist.

[MageBlack]

Every player in this game has the ability to "return" for free. The longest you'd ever be stuck for is 20 min. I agree about the limits though.

I agree but there are still situations where you might be unable to use return. Like being in a constant state of fall for instance or your character is twitch glitching so they cant stand still to return.

[Velthice]

Sorry to burst your bubble but quite a lot of ARR is still utilizing concepts introduced in 1.0 and the few updates shortly after, so the fact a lot of the foundation systems in ARR are 1.0 systems, he is correct - 1.0 was good, the concept in itself was amazing. The issue was it being unfinished and pushed out despite the director/producer saying it wasn't ready.

Yes, 1.0 was so good that square publicly apologized for it and replaced the dev team. You can't do much better than that.

[Edli]

I agree but there are still situations where you might be unable to use return. Like being in a constant state of fall for instance or your character is twitch glitching so they cant stand still to return.

That is an ancient issue which games has solved ages ago. This is not something unique FFXIV devs would suddenly experience.

[axemtitanium]

I had absolutely zero problems with 1.0's map. So what if they copy'd a lot of things, unless you were up close and you were really looking for it, you never would have noticed.

The rose-colored nostalgia glasses are strong with this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7GGnyNwEs

[MageBlack]

That is an ancient issue which games has solved ages ago. This is not something unique FFXIV devs would suddenly experience.

Ok. I was mostly referring to going outside of the boundries of the game and getting stuck. During Beta, they had a command /stuck that would fix things when you were stuck and couldnt teleport.

[Roris]

They might drop PS3 support in 4.0 and expand the world in more ways than just adding more zones, could even add seamless zones again. Whenever they do drop support though expect it to be the next "but the game is still X give it time, wait until Y".

[Velthice]

The rose-colored nostalgia glasses are strong with this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7GGnyNwEs

I just want to add to this in case someone comes along and says that's hardly any copy paste.
This is just a small section of the 1.0 thanalan map.

Yea...

[Pooky_Pasha]

Oh gods. First we get a huge influx in "1.23 was amazing" people, and now we have people like you that actually have the audacity to say to 1.0 was good? I do not think "good" means what you think it means.

1.0 was the biggest flop I've ever seen, and for good reason. 1.0 had nothing, and anyone who says otherwise is a troll or a fool. SE didn't even provide a decent way to download or update the game, you had to torrent the updates and apply them yourself. There is a reason that the vast majority of the player-base quit the game before their first month was even over.

Every time I watch a video of anything 1.0-1.23, it reminds of how painful and mindnumbing it was to play.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

It seams that between the "1.x was better" and "drop PS3 support NOW!!" arguments we've lost the real point of this thread.

While it's quite true, as many have pointed out, there are invisible wall that serve important purposes. There are also many walls that are quite odd.
You cannot jump on top of Minfilia's desk, why?
You cannot go behind the counters of shops in the market wards, why?
You cannot jump down the stairs to the airship in the Gridania adventurers guild, why?

There are other examples that I can't think of at this time. But there are some invisible walls in this game that they could take out now and it wouldn't hurt anything.