Abusing the Trade feature to interrupt, etc

[Waeksyn]

What you are saying is that victims should not be obligated to guard themselves in any way. That someone else should do all the work for them. This is highly impractical not to mention a lot less safe than being prepared in the first place. Prevention isn't foolproof of course. But doing nothing...is far worse.

Being prepared is always a good strategy for anything. Blaming victims for not being prepared enough is disgusting. The focus should be on stopping perpetrators, not blaming victims.

I don't believe this is an argument that I will win with you. You've shown in your other posts that you are eager to blame the victim in this case.

[Darki]

Being prepared is always a good strategy for anything. Blaming victims for not being prepared enough is disgusting. The focus should be on stopping perpetrators, not blaming victims.

I don't believe this is an argument that I will win with you. You've shown in your other posts that you are eager to blame the victim in this case.

And you have shown in your posts that you are eager to vilify those who do not share your naivete.
Also, I said victims who make no attempt at prevention are partly to blame, Ms. selective reading.
I didn't imply it was pretty. I implied it was reality. When you come out of your walled in garden and see the world for what it is, maybe you will come out of it a little more enlightened.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's a two way street. Players can take the initiative and reduce the grief themselves, but it doesn't make the process any less annoying and it doesn't get the point across to the offender that what they are doing is wrong. Likewise, not reporting players who keep bothering you gives the offender the message that it is ok for them to keep harassing you because you aren't do anything about it to stop them.


People paid a subscription to play this game, ergo, they have the right to be able to play the game without other people souring the experience for them. If the GMs didn't do anything, then players would cancel their subscriptions and it will look bad on Square if word got out that they couldn't be bothered to deal with harassment or told their players that it's all on them to deal with it.


Just because you can take steps to reduce griefing doesn't mean that it should be your only solution. GMs are there to make sure that there's no grievances between players. That is their job.

[BloodLines]

Any word on if this is a bannable offense and if it's going to be fixed anytime soon? It's getting pretty old.

Please SE.... Please stop the teletrolls!
Don't actually make any content...
Just deal with these people who wanna have fun in a game in which there's nothing to do other then cancel portblocking other newbs.

[Waeksyn]

. When you come out of your walled in garden and see the world for what it is, maybe you will come out of it a little more enlightened.

LOL!

I think you want to be trade trolled so you have an excuse to play victim. There is no other explanation.

Nice example of enlightenment there.

[Darki]

LOL!

Nice example of enlightenment there.

Thank you. I enjoyed watching you debunk your own stance. Is it fun self-victimizing? Tell me, are you going to petition that SE remove the vote kick, blacklist, /busy and all the other preventive measures? Clearly you don't think they are worth much. After all why have them when the GMs should be doing 100% of the work? It would be safer that way!....oh wait.

[SummonerSenah]

I think there is also just a disconnect in that many people would like not to have to take measures to prevent trade interrupt. But yes, I do understand your point.

[Mogi]

I think you want to be trade trolled so you have an excuse to play victim. There is no other explanation.
Support prevention. Not retaliation.

Lol So i want to be a victim because i feel trolls need to be dealt with accordingly? i'm starting to think your trolling now :P

[Darki]

I think there is also just a disconnect in that many people would like not to have to take measures to prevent trade interrupt. But yes, I do understand your point.

Believe me I would love it to if preventive measures were never needed. You know...now that I think about it, I just thought of a new preventive measure against trolls: friendly communication. Too bad Waeksyn has likely left the thread. Would of been nice to test it on her. In retrospect, I should of started with this idea.

Also, thank you for looking at the discussion objectively

[Darki]

Lol So i want to be a victim because i feel trolls need to be dealt with accordingly? i'm starting to think your trolling now :P

Late to the party? No matter, i'll catch you up to speed. Long story short, people seem to think that I was implying that GMs be taken completely out of the equation. If I gave that impression then I apologize. It is likely that people are aware of the preventive measures and I assumed people didn't want to use them. From my perspective, that is what it looked like. My stance is that both should be used. Preventive measures as a first resort, then GMs if they are needed.