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  1. #51
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

    Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.
    Ah, but you see in the 2009 Salvage Bans in FFXI it was simply duping gear that did nothing but save people time from farming the same remnant over and over...duping is an exploit but it wasn't 'dire enough' for SE to go:

    "Nope, you dun goof'd after we warned you we're watching."

    And laid the smack down, even on people considered 'key FFXI players' - Of course it made the news because a company dare not actually...ban players for breaking the rules, especially en mass. In all honesty, they need to man up like that again, it's almost guaranteed people would straighten up even if it lasts only a few months.

    Also, stop saying it's immaturity - You steal a candy bar, you're stealing, it's not ok because "it's only a candy bar", breaking the rules is breaking the rules - some minor some major, but if you do nothing at all you're honestly sending the message:

    "It's perfectly ok to break the rules, go ahead!"
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  2. #52
    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Ah, but you see in the 2009 Salvage Bans in FFXI it was simply duping gear that did nothing but save people time from farming the same remnant over and over...duping is an exploit but it wasn't 'dire enough' for SE to go:
    I thought that was nyzule runs in the tower, I remember everyone cheering when mini dragon got banned. hahaha Though kinda sucked for people who got banned just by joining the group and didn't know what was going on.

    I am glad I didn't do nyzule at that time, I was busy doing other stuff.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    I thought that was nyzule runs in the tower, I remember everyone cheering when mini dragon got banned. hahaha Though kinda sucked for people who got banned just by joining the group and didn't know what was going on.

    I am glad I didn't do nyzule at that time, I was busy doing other stuff.
    Nah, was Salvage. It is part of the same dungeon set (Nyzul Isle) but Nyzul was generally a separate thing (Floors 1-100+) while Salvage were the separate 3 dungeon section (Bhaflau, Silver Seas and Arra..something Remnants.)
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Also, stop saying it's immaturity - You steal a candy bar, you're stealing, it's not ok because "it's only a candy bar", breaking the rules is breaking the rules - some minor some major
    I never said it was ok. I said (in the post you quoted, no less) that people are inflating the issue.
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  5. #55
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    Kane Firehero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Resetting hunts was a bigger issue, the way I see it. It affected all the players involved, and was much harder to deal with.

    For trade-interrupts, /busy and /blist completely negate the issue. Of course, you can't always do this preemptively (and then the damage is likely already done), but you at least have definite ways to deal with it in-game.

    I have no issue with anything else you wrote.
    Well for a start i don't want to set my self to busy! how can i trade with my friends or get tells! you know i like to do these things with my friends!
    You say black list well sorry my blacklist gets fill to often just for gold sellers!
    So nether of these options work!
    Yes i will report them strait away they made the choice to do it knowing what would happen to me the player.
    Meany times i have had my maps ruined by people doing this why should my work go wasted cause of some trolls who think its funny!

  6. #56
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    I think this is one of those situations where you can say, if you're not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about. And if you are, is any form of punishment too harsh considering that you could easily just choose not to troll in the first place? If people want to troll that's on them, but don't be surprised when there are consequences.
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  7. #57
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    Just use /busy. At this point there's really no excuse not to. If you can't be bothered to recieve a trade that interrupts you or you're really in a rush then just switch yourself to busy and problem solved. Complaining about something that can be fixed is stupid honestly.
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  8. #58
    Player Mogi's Avatar
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    Aria Tsuki
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    If they can ban you on the forums for just being rude then i don't see why they can't do it in game as well. ppl who do this over and over to others maybe GMs can ban them for 1 or 2 weeks that not be the end of the world but at the same time i don't think they will come back doing it again
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  9. #59
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by YmirEsc View Post
    Just use /busy. At this point there's really no excuse not to. If you can't be bothered to recieve a trade that interrupts you or you're really in a rush then just switch yourself to busy and problem solved. Complaining about something that can be fixed is stupid honestly.
    All it takes for someone to trade you while you're try to doan Alex map at the right time and you'll die.

    Why should I have /busy up all the time in fear of an "eventual" trade harassment?
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    All it takes for someone to trade you while you're try to doan Alex map at the right time and you'll die.

    Why should I have /busy up all the time in fear of an "eventual" trade harassment?
    I'm not saying 24/7, I'm saying when you're doing something important. If setting yourself to /busy while you're doing something important is too much work for you, good luck being taken seriously.
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