Abusing the Trade feature to interrupt, etc

[Niamh_Rillemaugh]

I don't see how calling a GM is a better solution than blacklisting the player (unless you really think they deserve to be banned--maybe they do).
Granted, they may not be aware of the option. (Note: I'm talking specifically about trade-griefing).

I'm not trying to imply that calling a GM is a better option. I've been trade-griefed, I handled it. I do have at least one friend who cannot handle it though. They are one of those people who will never say anything during a dungeon run because of their social anxiety. They've locked themselves in the inn room just because somebody was following them. I do not think they would be able to handle trade-griefing and contacting the GM might seem the only way to deal with it to them. I didn't know that blacklisting or setting your status to busy would block trades, I'll let her know.

[Najara]

If you're trying to imply that's what I did, you're wrong. I've been getting interrupted doing various things and the like, but mostly during Hunts when I'm trying to teleport.

You're fine with this happening from one singular person, but if it's consistently happening from a multitude of people then action is required and a fix needs to happen. In my opinion you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about. Over-reaction? Get real.

It sounds to me you just don't want to lose your precious troll macro.

[Marael]

Lighten up and/or blacklist them.

Sure, it's annoying, but it's really a bit much to want them banned for it.

Aha hahaha... ha...

Yeah... I can't tell you how many times I've been minding my own business, gathering materials I needed for leveling up crafts or for making my next set of gear on whatever job I was leveling at the time, and some self-important jerk walks up and, without a word, starts spamming me with trades to prevent me from gathering. I don't know where the "every single gatherer you see is a bot and must be stopped" mentality came from, but it sure got old fast for us legitimate people. I mean, seriously, is it so much to ask that you either mind your own business, or, you know, TRY TALKING TO THE PERSON BEFORE SPAMMING THEM WITH TRADES!?!?!? I report anyone I don't know who trades me even once these days because of it on general principle. I can't tell you how sick of it I am, and I do, indeed, hope that each and every one of them is banned. Maybe I'm being a dick about it, sure, but after a year of people spamming me with trades for no real reason that I can see except to stroke their own ego, and make themselves feel important, that's the place I'm at now. Those who came before made those who do it now completely intolerable to me. You try talking to people, you try being nice, and it still just keeps happening. How long is your patience? Because I am completely beyond the end of mine. Once or twice, okay, ignore it. HUNDREDS OF TIMES from HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUALS, no, this is a serious problem that is not going to stop by ignoring it or doing what I can to take care of it myself. If it is going to stop, a higher authority must be involved. I completely filled up my blacklist, not with people who spam me for RMT purposes, but with people who spammed me with trades because they saw me gathering and every gatherer MUST be a bot. I shouldn't have to /busy every time I need a few materials. I shouldn't see this level of harassment from SO MANY different individuals because I want to craft every once in a while. And no, I am not exaggerating in the least. Literally hundreds of people have done this to me over the past year since this game launched. I don't care if it's their first time ever doing it, or if they legitimately want to hand something to me, if they're not on my friend list, they are reported, period. I've gotten to the point where I just don't even care what their reasons are. I don't want to talk to them. I don't want to be near them. I don't want them on the game at all. I'm that sick of it. This isn't just a, oh I thought that one guy was annoying, sort of thing. This is a, OMFG why do hundreds of people keep freaking doing this to me, sort of thing. There comes a point for everyone where you've had all you can take, and you can't take anymore. I hit that point about eight months ago... and it STILL keeps happening. You go ahead and keep trivializing other people's problems, and we'll keep reporting the people we see as deserving of it. Sorry if I come off as something of an A-hole here, but seriously, this is the thing I hate the absolute most in this game, and you come along arguing fiercely that eh, it's not all that bad, get over it and stop being such an oversensitive whiner. I've been traded during alexandrite maps. I've been traded during Guildleves. I've been traded during hunts. But mostly, I get traded while gathering. This isn't a problem that is just going to get better if I keep doing my own thing about it. This is a problem that is persistent, and keeps happening no matter what I do about it.

[DefendPopPunk]

Does blacklisting someone prevent them from initiating a trade? I know this can happen by accident in a crowded area (right-clicking on wrong toon), but obviously if someone is spamming you over and over, it's a different story. Just blacklist them I guess if that prevents it from happening and report it to see if GM does anything about it.

Yeah this works

[Gramul]

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.

Then how about a week long ban?
No ida what makes people act like dicks to each other, but there should be some punishment for it.

[Lovescake]

i got traded during a Mysterious map...

now should i lighten up cause i lost an alexandrite and take it on the shoulder?....

[Elim]

They do it once? Suspend them for a week or two. They do it more than once or do it after the suspension? Permanent ban. That or SE could just fix the issue by not allowing trades during teleports, battle leves, chests, etc.

[Niwashi]

This issue can easily be fixed by changing so when people initiate trade it pops up a window in bottom right corner that u must open and accept before the trade can begin.

Could be fixed even quicker by simply not allowing people to trade when you are teleporting. Give them a big fat red error with "You cannot currently do that" or something. It's well within SE's power to do this, and it's a meaninglessly simple change.

That may (or may not) be quicker, but it would solve just one particular example of the problem, whereas Devils_Lawyer's suggestion solves a wider range of problems.

Just in this thread alone, we've seen complaints of the Trade window interrupting teleports, spell-casting, and gathering, and all of those can cause real problems. It may also interrupt other things as well.

And there can be more minor issues with it too (where it's merely an annoyance rather than a real problem, but if the same solution can fix those annoyances as well, all the better). For instance, I know it interrupts typing in the chat window, and that one can cause problems even on legitimate trades. I was offered some gear an FC-mate had crafted, and as I was typing out something to the effect of "Yes, thanks, that'd be great," the Trade window popped up taking keyboard focus so that my chat text cancelled the very trade I was trying to thank him for.

The notification window already exists and is used for everything from FC invites to loot drops. An icon pops up in the corner telling you some loot dropped, or that someone invited you to their FC, or that giving commendations is available, or whatever; then when you're ready to deal with it you click the icon to bring up the corresponding window. Trades could work the same way, and then they wouldn't interrupt anything, while still being just as convenient (or more so) for those trying to use it legitimately.

[Cigaran]

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.

Actually, if the permanent suspension was used more most MMO communities would be purged of their idiots pretty quickly.

[Yumi_umi]

Eh, maybe not banned but GM jail (does xiv have a GM jail?) would be nice.

They do lol