Abusing the Trade feature to interrupt, etc

[Tiraelina]

It seems like it needs to be pointed out that GM's are there for anything you might have problems or concerns with. Preventative measures also mean little in the context of reports. Like other games, the fact there is a profanity filter does not mean you can't be reported and actioned for using those words in a public context. If someone is going to go out of their way to repeatedly open trade while you are doing anything else, they know what they are doing. I hope they enjoy their well earned vacations.

[Elim]

I can't honestly say that I understand the people saying "just /busy or suck it up and ignore the trade spam trolls. Don't contact the GMs.". Sticking your head in the sand and pretending there's nothing wrong generally doesn't make a issue like this go away. If it does it only diverts it to someone else who's innocent and unaware and they'll suffer instead of you.

I can agree with not reacting to trolls directly. Don't call them out on it in /say, but it's beneficial to yourself and others to report them to GMs. If they continue to do it after being warned to stop or suspended then hopefully they'll get a permeant ban or something. Another benefit to reporting is that the devs might create a way to prevent it in the future so that no one has to worry about it in the first place. It's not going to be fixed if it's not reported, and if it's rarely ever reported it may take much longer to be fixed.

[Niwashi]

I never said it was ok. I said (in the post you quoted, no less) that people are inflating the issue.

Saying that it shouldn't be punishable is the same as saying it's ok.

Most likely the trade spammers (or whatever you want to call them,) are just stupid teenagers tiring to get a rise out of others.
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If SE was as ban-happy as the latter half of this topic is, there would be no subscribers and thus no game.

Well, there would at least be a lot fewer griefers amongst the subscribers, which would make it a much better game for everyone else. This sounds as though you think the griefers are a majority of the playerbase, which they're certainly not. Excluding a tiny number of griefers and so making the game better for all the (far more numerous) legitimate players would only help the game as a whole.

I agree that it's mostly just stupid teenagers trying to get a rise out of others, but those teenagers need to be excluded from a few games so they learn just how stupid it is to give up a chance at a game for something as worthless as getting a rise out of someone. Trying to ruin other people's gameplay is not itself a valid form of gameplay and nobody who doesn't know that should be allowed in multi-player games.

/busy is part of the game for a reason- so nobody can bother you.

It's there so that your friends know that now isn't a good time to bother you with things you'd normally welcome any other time. It's not there to indicate you don't want to be griefed right now. That would imply that normally you (and everyone else) does want to be griefed, or at least that such greifing is acceptable and appropriate.

It's fine to suggest using /busy to block a persistent griefer while you report them to the GMs, but doing so is not a substitute for punishing the offender, because it doesn't accomplish that.

[axenred]

over a year later, why is this still a thing?

[Lambdafish]

over a year later, why is this still a thing?

I would also like this fixed, I had an incident like this a few months back where two trolls made me miss an hour long mining node because they were trade spamming me. I reported it to a GM, I got a reply saying they would deal with it, but I never found out what happened (as they arent at liberty to discuss)

[myahele]

over a year later, why is this still a thing?

Considering that this happened to Yoshi P when he was in Tonberry, I'm surprise that they haven't tried changing it.

[Voltyblast]

I actually have another question about this abuse. Why does trading interrupt teleport to begin with?

In other games teleporting isn't interrupted by trading. It is by combat. Not by trading.

Heck there's a reason why in wow there's a glyph for Bubble-Earth combo, but even without that the only thing that interrupts you is the combat.

Just thinking that maybe we should get some fixing about these multi-tasking things (like why am I unable to dye while I'm sit down, or while I can't queue with the chocobo out)

It's a minor thing, but I thought that this trade abuse thing is just weird on its own.

[Pinkie_Pie]

HOLY CRAP NECRO, why bring this old thread up. >.<;

Moral of the story.

Tell them stop then just /busy or blacklist them and move on.

/thread and lock this

[Blackbird1]

omg you guys...really? why are you getting so bent out of shape over troll? and to go so far as to ban these people for it clearly you have too much time on your hands /busy teleport then/busy again to take it off boom done. Yes it makes you laugh when you do once to another person or several (friend that was trying to run away from hug emote lol) but if you keep bothering the GM over something stupid like this they might just turn around and ban you for bothering them making them waste their time tracking down some guy that opened trade while mid teleport when they could be helping someone that got they're money/account taken by hacker. Now caster trying to survive by using a healing spell before mob gets closer to them during leve that's a different story then they are just being arseholes.

[HaelseMikiro]

I just interrupted someones teleport last night after killing an S rank. Log into forums today and see this thread in full swing again. Maybe it's a sign. W/E, no remorse felt!!! But yeah, I also +1 that trades should not be initiated on players involved in combat, teleportation, or any duty with a timer (maps/fates etc)