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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    The point of the matter is I shouldn't need to do this if proper etiquette and decorum of the online community is followed.

    Why should I expect to be harassed while out on the field minding my own business. Apparently the onus is on me to prevent someone else's indiscretion? No. Someone willing chose to harass me. The onus is on them to hold their itchy grief finger. If not, they risk the punishment, whatever it may be.
    I would agree with you if there wasn't already methods implemented to prevent it.

    /busy is part of the game for a reason- so nobody can bother you. Use what SE already has rather than kick and scream about something you already can stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YmirEsc View Post
    I would agree with you if there wasn't already methods implemented to prevent it.

    /busy is part of the game for a reason- so nobody can bother you. Use what SE already has rather than kick and scream about something you already can stop.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    Well it seems to me that you can ether demand that everyone else follow your request to be more civilized and expect them to do so or take steps to guard yourself in case people are not. What do you think is the smarter choice?
    I agree to disagree, because what I'm advocating is everyone to play nice and respect other players in this game. You two are advocating is that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there and everyone should look after themselves and their own self-interest.

    I can respect the opinion, though I disagree with it, but I also know that I have no solidifying counterpoint to it since it's my own opinion versus yours on how the matter should be dealt with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I agree to disagree, because what I'm advocating is everyone to play nice and respect other players in this game. You two are advocating is that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there and everyone should look after themselves and their own self-interest.

    I can respect the opinion, though I disagree with it, but I also know that I have no solidifying counterpoint to it since it's my own opinion versus yours on how the matter should be dealt with.
    And that's a great thing to advocate. There are even others out there just like you who advocate the same thing. More power to ya. If that day ever comes, I will be the first person to join you on the beach with a a tray of pina coladas. But reality is still reality and it only cares about what is. Not about what is right and wrong. Though like you, I wish it were different
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    The point of the matter is I shouldn't need to do this if proper etiquette and decorum of the online community is followed.

    Why should I expect to be harassed while out on the field minding my own business. Apparently the onus is on me to prevent someone else's indiscretion? No. Someone willing chose to harass me. The onus is on them to hold their itchy grief finger. If not, they risk the punishment, whatever it may be.
    Well it seems to me that you can ether demand that everyone else follow your request to be more civilized and expect them to do so or take steps to guard yourself in case people are not. What do you think is the smarter choice?
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    There's always gotta be that one guy who has to play the role of douchebags' advocate.
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    I see a lot of people talking about how SE needs to implement measures to make sure that this sort of thing can't happen to begin with. That's a good line of thinking. SE should implement measures to make trading work like things such as party/LS/FC invites and loot and the like. I think what everyone who is arguing that it's not worth the time and effort of reporting is missing, is that if this type of behavior isn't reported and brought to the attention of GMs as being something that can be abused, SE won't notice that it is something that needs to be fixed. People arguing against reporting griefers who use this tactic, I would ask you to consider that reports of this nature are used for reasons other than just handing out punishment. Reporting things like this also help bring unintended mechanics/uses/exploits to the attention of the development team so that they can find ways to deal with them and make the game more functional and enjoyable for everyone.
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    It's a two way street. Players can take the initiative and reduce the grief themselves, but it doesn't make the process any less annoying and it doesn't get the point across to the offender that what they are doing is wrong. Likewise, not reporting players who keep bothering you gives the offender the message that it is ok for them to keep harassing you because you aren't do anything about it to stop them.


    People paid a subscription to play this game, ergo, they have the right to be able to play the game without other people souring the experience for them. If the GMs didn't do anything, then players would cancel their subscriptions and it will look bad on Square if word got out that they couldn't be bothered to deal with harassment or told their players that it's all on them to deal with it.


    Just because you can take steps to reduce griefing doesn't mean that it should be your only solution. GMs are there to make sure that there's no grievances between players. That is their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Najara View Post
    Any word on if this is a bannable offense and if it's going to be fixed anytime soon? It's getting pretty old.
    Please SE.... Please stop the teletrolls!
    Don't actually make any content...
    Just deal with these people who wanna have fun in a game in which there's nothing to do other then cancel portblocking other newbs.
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    Senah Kha
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    I think there is also just a disconnect in that many people would like not to have to take measures to prevent trade interrupt. But yes, I do understand your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummonerSenah View Post
    I think there is also just a disconnect in that many people would like not to have to take measures to prevent trade interrupt. But yes, I do understand your point.
    Believe me I would love it to if preventive measures were never needed. You know...now that I think about it, I just thought of a new preventive measure against trolls: friendly communication. Too bad Waeksyn has likely left the thread. Would of been nice to test it on her. In retrospect, I should of started with this idea.

    Also, thank you for looking at the discussion objectively
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