Strike while the iron is hot Square!

[Renik]

ESO is at 772,374 subs as of July

Probably more then FFXIV

ESO has a very different player-base, it's not direct competence, and i'm sure those numbers are just an occasional peak or the number of registered accounts (not subscribed), i have played it, and it's a disgrace for the MMO genre and the franchise... but you can be a vampire or a werewolf, guess the twilight fan base will keep it alive and p2p.

And ffxiv is at 2m+, well, that's what SE says.

[Saccharin]

With the announcement of the new WoW expansion release date, many players are unsubscribing, mostly because it has been over a year since the last content update and they now have to wait ANOTHER 3 months.

Now would be a good time to advertise just how often content is added here, just saying.

No. ARR and WoW compete for some of the same players but they are very different games in some respects. ARR isn't a raiding game really. I've said this many time, it's not what a WoW player would call hardcore and neither is the PvP. WoW caters to a broad range of players from 'casual loggers to the high end have-no-life-a-week-when-a-new-tier-is-released raiders. This is not ARR and those people wouldn't be satisfied here.

Many MMOs in the last few years have tried to emulate WoW and have failed seriously. SWTOR, in place of dragons they have droids but very similar to WoW. They went quasi-free-to-play. Trion marketed Rift as a hardcore WoW. They even used the infamous slogan you're not in Azeroth anymore - yeah, we know and went back to Azeroth. Now they went free to play and reply on rehashes and lottery boxes. Recently Wildstar released and apparently they were founded by former WoW devs. They too went with the hardcore tag but guess what, they picked the worst features of WoW. 40 man raids, attunement chain and the so-called hardcore raids. They're only realising how big a mistake they made now. A few months on and the few servers are felling empty. They just nerfed the raid attunement chain.

After the disaster of 1.0 SE have been cautious with what they do, too cautious but that's my opinion. Most MMO launches go boom and then sharply bust. ARR seems to be stabilising and possibly growing their player base. Just leave it as it is. If vacationing WoW players gravitate to us then let them but don't court them.

[Roris]

2 million registered users of which 500k log in every day were the last official ARR numbers a couple of months ago, note the registered part, as in people who simply bought or already owned the game and have an account but aren't necessarily still subbed. We'll see how the upcoming census goes if it even shows real sub numbers this time.

[Xystic]

Don't forget project Titan, though I'm beginning to think by the time its released I would be too old for mmos

I'm not sure how project Titan will go. All we know is a name but we know nothing about it. Like all MMOs though, I'll give it a try but as for WoW, I think I'm done with that one lol.

2 million registered users of which 500k log in every day were the last official ARR numbers a couple of months ago, note the registered part, as in people who simply bought or already owned the game and have an account but aren't necessarily still subbed. We'll see how the upcoming census goes if it even shows real sub numbers this time.

Well, Famfrit is starting to have a server queue in the afternoons and we were a low population server for a long time.

[Nukocafe]

With the announcement of the new WoW expansion release date, many players are unsubscribing

Oh you mean all those rude self entitled WOW players will return to WOW?

[HakuroDK]

Oh you mean all those rude self entitled WOW players will return to WOW?

You know, as much as I HATE to say it because I think this game deserves all of the success it's getting, thank goodness a lot of the rude folks will be migrating back. Blizzard can keep their ilk.

[Fendred]

You know, as much as I HATE to say it because I think this game deserves all of the success it's getting, thank goodness a lot of the rude folks will be migrating back. Blizzard can keep their ilk.

What makes you think they all come from World of Warcraft? Its not isolated to any one MMORPG. There are so many games like WoW they could have come from any of the four winds.

[Mcshiggs]

You know, as much as I HATE to say it because I think this game deserves all of the success it's getting, thank goodness a lot of the rude folks will be migrating back. Blizzard can keep their ilk.

Quite a few of the rude folks I come across are from that XI game.

[Edli]

You know, as much as I HATE to say it because I think this game deserves all of the success it's getting, thank goodness a lot of the rude folks will be migrating back. Blizzard can keep their ilk.

Oh you mean all those rude self entitled WOW players will return to WOW?

Rude is generalizing and insulting an entire playerbase only because they play another game too.

[Nukocafe]

Rude is generalizing and insulting an entire playerbase only because they play another game too.

Who said I was generalizing an entire playerbase? I am only referring to players who came from WOW and act rude and self entitled. Not "all players that come from WOW".
Seeing how you think I'm referring to the entire playerbase, clearly that means there must be enough of them to make this a valid generalization!