Current game is unsustainable as it stands.. NEEDS ADDRESSING NOW!

[DefendPopPunk]

Are you confusing the map exploration achievements with the sightseeing log? ^^;

Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I'd forgotten about those achievements. Not going to edit my post though, a mistake is a mistake. Lol. Aside from that, the point I was trying to make is still valid, and that is that even if there is content that someone still has left to do (pick any achievement or quest, really), it doesn't mean it's content that that person even wants to do.

[Mjytresz]

It's funny because you could post documented research and empirical facts on here and you'd still get 10 pages of idiots spamming "LOL Y U COMPLAIN DOE??? GET GUD NOB LOL"

[Makado]

Between dungeons, fates, levequests, challenge log, and daily roulletes if you can't level up quickly and easily you either don't want to or are just ignoring things. Its so easy to level its not even funny.

[Volas]

You say there's not enough content for pre-50? There are issues with that off the bat.

After 2.0 We had ("pre-50 content"):
Beast Tribe Quests - with a variety of different quest types (renewable every day). Which there are now three of.

The Sightseeing log.

The weekly renewable challenge log.

A mariad of small quests pre 50 such as maps etc, and many of the grand company quests.

OF All the rampant fanboi posts and flame trolls, this is the ONLY reply that actually tried to address the topic at hand.. the problem is.. it falls pathetically short of what is being presented.
Ive seen your precious "Challenge Log" .. over half of them give NO form of xp rewards, and the half that DO give rewards... give it for "run 5 dungeons" .. if I could easily just "run 5 dungeons!" .. I wouldnt be on these forums to begin with, and for a level 15 THM, those quests give like 5k xp... GC leve gives 11k in 5 minutes. (Again, as stated.. WORTHWHILE content is Leve's, and they are stupidly limited.)

Beast Tribes... 3 per DAY, see Levequests for my issue there.
Hunting Log - Srsly.. you people are kidding me right? OMG I DID MY HUNTING LOG AND GAINED 3/4th a level! .. just 9.25 levels to go before the next ones unlock! /eyeroll
Sightseeing log - Get the frak out of here with that crap, NONE Of them give xp, and such, NONE of them help level alt classes to 50.
GC quests - uhh I did all of these as I leveled my GLD to 50, have max rank. Nothing left to do for them besides those (SURPRISE) level 50 hunt logs.

So tell me again about all this "CONTENT" that's been added? Because Im seeing about what... an hour a day in Beast quests... then its back to limited levequests

I also love how all these people keep spouting about fates.. when they have max 50s and havent even LOOKED at a FATE zone in months. THEY ARE EMPTY. NOBODY does them anymore. The only Fates I see being done are the Epic Fates... that's it.

And yeah, I get it, your 50 max has this MASSIVE stockpile of leves.. I dont, neither do alot of other people. I currently have 4 remaining.

[Gardes]

I don't think Yoshi really likes the idea of having multiple classes per character to be totally honest.

If the next FF MMO comes and he's the lead and he removes multi class per character system, I probably won't be on board at all. I like FF, but it was never my no.1 series and this system was what got me interested in XI and XIV in the first place.

[Ashkendor]

Beast Tribes... 3 per DAY, see Levequests for my issue there.

These are six per day just like leves.

I also love how all these people keep spouting about fates.. when they have max 50s and havent even LOOKED at a FATE zone in months. THEY ARE EMPTY. NOBODY does them anymore. The only Fates I see being done are the Epic Fates... that's it.

Maybe it's a server thing. I'm on a Legacy server and with the Atma grind and other people leveling, there are people doing fates most of the day. I mean, if you're trying to do them at 2am-6am eastern time there's less of course, but there's usually still a few. I just spent the past two hours running fates in Central Thanalan, Central Shroud, and Western Thanalan to level up a new class and I always had company at every single fate. I had to rush to get to many of them. In any case, that brings me to:

And yeah, I get it, your 50 max has this MASSIVE stockpile of leves.. I dont, neither do alot of other people. I currently have 4 remaining.

I'm far from maxed out. You really should've checked my Lodestone info before throwing this one out there.

[HeroSamson]

HOWEVER.. the one MAJOR reason I left was a distinct lack of CONTENT

It isn't the fact of lacking content, the game has content, it's that SE gives everyone a break in grabbing everything with 1 job, when you bring up something that screws with what people are spoiled rotten about they throw fits and say they don't want change.

They wanna speed through the game, then complain and say what's next SE why SE this SE that.

You are a prime example.

Problem is people get all their glamour from 1 level 50 job.

50 healer.
50 tank

Reason those two jobs are also lacking because they max out gear items and switch to another job to get whatever those two jobs need also were jobs people chose at the start, when SE cuts them off they head back to forums and whine about it till they get spoiled again, SE needs to just put their foot down and say look deal with it.

Then some recently said they don't wanna be forced to play the job or see bad tanks and healers play because of the nightmares, well if they didn't get their gear early and practiced their jobs through duty's and getting proper practice that wouldn't happen speeding through this game, reminds me of abyss level 35 hitting 99 in ffxi.

but people will cry about change cause they are in a comfort zone and make tons of gil, glamour gear don't need exhcange 900 points a pop in grand company selling peacock ores 9000 gil you can see why they dont want things to change. but in the end it will hurt this game.

SE needs to stop letting one job get everything for other jobs it would slow up people no matter how much people complain about it.

[kidvideo]

OF All the rampant fanboi posts and flame trolls,

lol... he came back to troll his own troll. [like]

[Welsper59]

OF All the rampant fanboi posts and flame trolls, this is the ONLY reply that actually tried to address the topic at hand.. the problem is.. it falls pathetically short of what is being presented.
Ive seen your precious "Challenge Log" .. over half of them give NO form of xp rewards, and the half that DO give rewards... give it for "run 5 dungeons" .. if I could easily just "run 5 dungeons!" .. I wouldnt be on these forums to begin with, and for a level 15 THM, those quests give like 5k xp... GC leve gives 11k in 5 minutes. (Again, as stated.. WORTHWHILE content is Leve's, and they are stupidly limited.)

Beast Tribes... 3 per DAY, see Levequests for my issue there.
Hunting Log - Srsly.. you people are kidding me right? OMG I DID MY HUNTING LOG AND GAINED 3/4th a level! .. just 9.25 levels to go before the next ones unlock! /eyeroll
Sightseeing log - Get the frak out of here with that crap, NONE Of them give xp, and such, NONE of them help level alt classes to 50.
GC quests - uhh I did all of these as I leveled my GLD to 50, have max rank. Nothing left to do for them besides those (SURPRISE) level 50 hunt logs.

So tell me again about all this "CONTENT" that's been added? Because Im seeing about what... an hour a day in Beast quests... then its back to limited levequests

I also love how all these people keep spouting about fates.. when they have max 50s and havent even LOOKED at a FATE zone in months. THEY ARE EMPTY. NOBODY does them anymore. The only Fates I see being done are the Epic Fates... that's it.

And yeah, I get it, your 50 max has this MASSIVE stockpile of leves.. I dont, neither do alot of other people. I currently have 4 remaining.

When it comes to experience rewarding content on an actively unique scale, the game is a little... short on that after you've done quests. About that though, the quests really weren't that rewarding to begin with. To be honest, during 2.0, you could just do FATEs non-stop and come out just as quickly hitting 50, if not faster depending on efficiency. Plus, that one-time go and achieving 50 automatically unlocks your access to the 50% exp bonus for upcoming classes/jobs. While not exactly the most noticeable, the 3% food buff and 5-10% FC buff does still boost you in a small way as well, especially in dungeons. Throw in any rested bonus and you're pretty damn well off.

While DPS queues are long, it's not unreasonable for people to make friends have get them to help you with dungeon grinding. Maybe not to do them for hours upon hours, but maybe a run or two a day isn't exactly what most would consider farfetched. Little to no wait time, depending if you can get 3 others with you. Do a DF solo for the massive bonus exp once a day too. Sure, you gotta wait, but... MMORPG = a lot of time needed to play (generally).

The beast tribes thing is actually 6 a day. You don't have to limit yourself to just one groups 3 quests, assuming you're only at the entry reputation. Do the 3 for one, then do 3 for another. I believe at least two of the tribes have the lowest lv42 quests available daily.

FATEs being empty is of little problem. Most are soloable by every class/job, and assuming they are constantly failing (due to lack of players perhaps), even the boss ones are weakened to the point of being soloable.

Of course, there is always the potential to do a traditional exp party, but if you were to have the numbers, you might as well run dungeons.

Then there's the little misc bonuses, which are NOT intended to be looked at as anything but a "bonus", such as challenge logs, hunting logs, the previously mentioned daily DF, and leves. I separate these from everything else because they are intended for leveling and simultaneously limited (be it by weeky, daily, or permanency).

So while there isn't anything "new" added to spur low level content to new heights, there's a lot of changes made to speed up the process. In most cases, hitting that 50 is the goal for anyone leveling. Some want to experience the in-between, and they're more than welcome to do so... and quite easily.

[Baneus]

OP is 100% wrong about the FATEs. People are doing them all the time for Atma. They're not as busy as they were in 2.0 (anyone complaining about the number of people doing Hunts and missing out would have been horrified at South Shroud 2.0) and they're not in the same zones (if you're looking on Google for teh best FATE zones, it pays to use advanced search to discard any posts not updated in a month or two). If they're all empty, OPs biggest problem is likely that he is not playing at the same time as everyone else (server prime time) and this would his dungeon queues as well (servers being grouped by region etc). Or he could just be playing on a low pop server.

I'll agree that there are not a lot of low level things to do once you've got a couple of 50's under your belt (I did main scenario on one and all the side quests on another), but with the multiclass-on-one-charcater system, this would mean adding several thousand new quests just to fill out the XP requirements. They could add more daily type quests I guess, but I really wouldn't want to see WoW levels of dailies* ever again.

*For reference, with the daily limit removed, I once did every daily I could do at max level and all the lower level ones as well. I couldn't get them all done before the reset.