Current game is unsustainable as it stands.. NEEDS ADDRESSING NOW!

[Ashkendor]

Beast Tribes... 3 per DAY, see Levequests for my issue there.

These are six per day just like leves.

I also love how all these people keep spouting about fates.. when they have max 50s and havent even LOOKED at a FATE zone in months. THEY ARE EMPTY. NOBODY does them anymore. The only Fates I see being done are the Epic Fates... that's it.

Maybe it's a server thing. I'm on a Legacy server and with the Atma grind and other people leveling, there are people doing fates most of the day. I mean, if you're trying to do them at 2am-6am eastern time there's less of course, but there's usually still a few. I just spent the past two hours running fates in Central Thanalan, Central Shroud, and Western Thanalan to level up a new class and I always had company at every single fate. I had to rush to get to many of them. In any case, that brings me to:

And yeah, I get it, your 50 max has this MASSIVE stockpile of leves.. I dont, neither do alot of other people. I currently have 4 remaining.

I'm far from maxed out. You really should've checked my Lodestone info before throwing this one out there.

[kidvideo]

OF All the rampant fanboi posts and flame trolls,

lol... he came back to troll his own troll. [like]

[Welsper59]

OF All the rampant fanboi posts and flame trolls, this is the ONLY reply that actually tried to address the topic at hand.. the problem is.. it falls pathetically short of what is being presented.
Ive seen your precious "Challenge Log" .. over half of them give NO form of xp rewards, and the half that DO give rewards... give it for "run 5 dungeons" .. if I could easily just "run 5 dungeons!" .. I wouldnt be on these forums to begin with, and for a level 15 THM, those quests give like 5k xp... GC leve gives 11k in 5 minutes. (Again, as stated.. WORTHWHILE content is Leve's, and they are stupidly limited.)

Beast Tribes... 3 per DAY, see Levequests for my issue there.
Hunting Log - Srsly.. you people are kidding me right? OMG I DID MY HUNTING LOG AND GAINED 3/4th a level! .. just 9.25 levels to go before the next ones unlock! /eyeroll
Sightseeing log - Get the frak out of here with that crap, NONE Of them give xp, and such, NONE of them help level alt classes to 50.
GC quests - uhh I did all of these as I leveled my GLD to 50, have max rank. Nothing left to do for them besides those (SURPRISE) level 50 hunt logs.

So tell me again about all this "CONTENT" that's been added? Because Im seeing about what... an hour a day in Beast quests... then its back to limited levequests

I also love how all these people keep spouting about fates.. when they have max 50s and havent even LOOKED at a FATE zone in months. THEY ARE EMPTY. NOBODY does them anymore. The only Fates I see being done are the Epic Fates... that's it.

And yeah, I get it, your 50 max has this MASSIVE stockpile of leves.. I dont, neither do alot of other people. I currently have 4 remaining.

When it comes to experience rewarding content on an actively unique scale, the game is a little... short on that after you've done quests. About that though, the quests really weren't that rewarding to begin with. To be honest, during 2.0, you could just do FATEs non-stop and come out just as quickly hitting 50, if not faster depending on efficiency. Plus, that one-time go and achieving 50 automatically unlocks your access to the 50% exp bonus for upcoming classes/jobs. While not exactly the most noticeable, the 3% food buff and 5-10% FC buff does still boost you in a small way as well, especially in dungeons. Throw in any rested bonus and you're pretty damn well off.

While DPS queues are long, it's not unreasonable for people to make friends have get them to help you with dungeon grinding. Maybe not to do them for hours upon hours, but maybe a run or two a day isn't exactly what most would consider farfetched. Little to no wait time, depending if you can get 3 others with you. Do a DF solo for the massive bonus exp once a day too. Sure, you gotta wait, but... MMORPG = a lot of time needed to play (generally).

The beast tribes thing is actually 6 a day. You don't have to limit yourself to just one groups 3 quests, assuming you're only at the entry reputation. Do the 3 for one, then do 3 for another. I believe at least two of the tribes have the lowest lv42 quests available daily.

FATEs being empty is of little problem. Most are soloable by every class/job, and assuming they are constantly failing (due to lack of players perhaps), even the boss ones are weakened to the point of being soloable.

Of course, there is always the potential to do a traditional exp party, but if you were to have the numbers, you might as well run dungeons.

Then there's the little misc bonuses, which are NOT intended to be looked at as anything but a "bonus", such as challenge logs, hunting logs, the previously mentioned daily DF, and leves. I separate these from everything else because they are intended for leveling and simultaneously limited (be it by weeky, daily, or permanency).

So while there isn't anything "new" added to spur low level content to new heights, there's a lot of changes made to speed up the process. In most cases, hitting that 50 is the goal for anyone leveling. Some want to experience the in-between, and they're more than welcome to do so... and quite easily.

[Mogi]

looking at you it seems you got one class to 50 and just gave up? but the funny thing is it's so easy to lvl up in this game it's act sort of sad i my self have only been playing since DEC and got 4 classes to 50 since that's all i wish to be 50 at this time. And i never run out of stuff to do {not saying ppl don't }

[Zyrusticae]

While I would agree that they need to add more activities to level up (with the hunting log being particularly useless as it's only a very tiny fraction of your entire XP to-next-level requirement), I would say that more quests is not the answer here, especially since, you know, they're just one-off activities that cannot be replayed.

I wouldn't mind seeing them redo the dungeon progression, for example. Rebalancing some of the older level 50 dungeons (which, frankly, no one ever runs anymore outside of the high-level roulette) to be run by sub-50 players, and making a new dungeon show up every alternating two and three levels instead of just every three, wouldn't be a bad way to go. A more robust hunting log with more mobs to kill for each level with correspondingly higher XP rewards would be helpful as well.

It's also worth noting that the armory bonus is quite helpful once you already have your first class to 50, so you can't discount that. Perhaps it should be even higher than it already is? I wouldn't be against that, really. Simply mob grinding is so worthless that even tripling the amount of XP you get per kill wouldn't really put much of a dent in your progression speed compared to FATEs and leves. Just some stuff to think about.

[Moheeheeko]

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Its like im really back on the WoW forums reading about how lvl 19 pvp is unbalanced. xD

[Lyis64]

So you've been playing for about a month and a half? and your ranting about more content? Are you wanting easier content since endgame is "crap"? It's only natural to make something that people strive to do. SE doesn't want to baby you all the way to 50, be more resourceful with your leveling. I personally love the endgame. To be rewarded for all your hard work. Lvl 50 and beyond should be your goal, not leveling 30 and waiting for next patch', hoping there is a update on more XP. If they make a bunch of pre 50 quest and you hit 50 in a day, will your rant for more 50 quest? Not trying to sound mean, just confused about you reasoning. Gl

[Terminal5]

Pretty sure there's been new pre-50 quests since a month after launch.

Not nearly enough to stop your moaning though, apparently.

[Dude]

I believe you get a 50% exp increase once you have at least one Level 50. I don't think that bonus is folded into quest however.

[Sadana]

Wondering, did you blow all your main AND side quests on leveling your first job? >.>' That is the only reason I could see someone complain about the lack of lower level stuff. Piece of advice for anyone still leveling... save some quests for other jobs; it will add variety to the leve/dungeon grind.