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    Desphiria's Avatar
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    Izaza Iza
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    Questions about a few spells

    Hello guys, I've been wondering about some spells that I have as a WHM. How often should Regen, Divine Seal, and Aero 2 be used? Also, does anyone have tips for controller setups on PS3 for WHM? Because I play WHM when I'm by myself too. And I have a lot of skills that I still use and two hotbars. I'm not sure which skills to switch out to the second hotbar and which ones to keep on the first.
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    Arilai Dranix
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    Try to only use regen when you know it will wear off before the next fight starts, most tanks won't cancel it themselves (I'm bad at this personally but I try to avoid tanking anyway) so you don't want insta-hate on a group because your regen is still running. There are various situations to use divine seal, on speed runs it's almost needed at the start if you're not overgeared and even then it makes things so much easier on you, divine seal + regen at the start of pulls can be a life saver. Other uses are on some boss fights where you can pop seal + medica 2 and then switch to dps mode, also when a big bit is coming it can mean using cure 1 over cure 2 for mp management. Aero 2 I just use at the start of boss fights as the duration is short I can't be bothered to keep reapplying it... Think that's laziness on my part though.
    Can't help with hotbars as mine are a mess but I've learnt where everything is so muscle memory helps more than anything. I tried sorting them once but the results weren't good so switched it all back to extreme messiness
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    i have cure set to r2+x for both hotbars. i use regen quite frequently, where a cure isnt appropriate, or just where i need a little extra heals . i have it set to l2+triangle. but, one setup wont fit every player. if i could, i would take some pictures of my hotbars and post them, but im at work. i only use 1.5 of my hotbars, but i have every skill, and some cross class. i dont use aero 2, because it has a cast time, and it doesnt seem to be very worth it, unless im on my own. if im on my own, i start with cleric+aero 2, followed by aero as soon as the GCD is down
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    i havent used divine seal very much, as my regular heals more than suffice. i can heal for almost 1.6k with a crit of over 3k on cure 2, but i have used it. both dots arent worth reapplying on a normal basis while in party.
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    Last edited by monochromicorn; 08-16-2014 at 02:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    i havent used divine seal very much, as my regular heals more than suffice. i can heal for almost 1.6k with a crit of over 3k on cure 1, but i have used it. both dots arent worth reapplying on a normal basis while in party.
    It's on a 1min recast. There's no reason not to use it often. It's not a "oh crap" button.
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    Delferia Seule
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    Regen is a superb spell, I aim to keep it up constantly when I know it will get its full duration used before the end of combat. It ticks seven time with a 150 potency, for 1,050 total potency, and only costs 186 mp. Compare this to cure II, which has a 650 potency and costs 266 mp, and you can start to see how very efficient it is. Since it's a HoT, it also pulls much less hate than a cure bomb at the beginning of a pull, allowing the tank to secure hate easily.

    As for divine seal, use it on CD for every single trash pull, there's no reason not to. When used with regen, it will affect the potency for the entire duration of the HoT, regardless of whether or not divine seal wears off before regen. This is adding about 300 potency to your regen effect, roughly the same as a cure, for free, every pull. When things start to get really messy, divine seal> medica II has obscene healing potential across an entire raid. Just be sure to keep shroud on hand, because stuff will hate on you if you aren't careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    It's on a 1min recast. There's no reason not to use it often. It's not a "oh crap" button.
    i know, but in the middle of a fight, it doesnt pop into my head a lot. when i do think of it, i use it, but it has nothiung to do with recast or effectiveness, just if i can remember it in battle.
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    its sad that ive come across many WHMs who 1)dont know what shroud of saints does or 2)never use it even if they do know.

    in T2, the other WHM ran out of mp, and i told him to use SoS, and he never did for the entire fight, he mentioned before we started if he knew what it was.

    whil playing tank on my alt, there was a WHM in ST that didnt even know what SoS was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    its sad that ive come across many WHMs who 1)dont know what shroud of saints does or 2)never use it even if they do know.

    in T2, the other WHM ran out of mp, and i told him to use SoS, and he never did for the entire fight, he mentioned before we started if he knew what it was.

    whil playing tank on my alt, there was a WHM in ST that didnt even know what SoS was.


    Someone TOLD me about that too! That it refreshes mana. I used it a few times, for hate and mana refresh but it just seems like it's not very helpful at all. I mean, it might be a bit but it doesn't seem to give me much mana back.
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    Shroud of Saints recovers 1090 MP over a span of 15 seconds at level 50 (nothing affects this)
    This ticks next to your regular MP recovery rate (which is 2% every 3 seconds)

    Ideally, you'd want to use Shroud of Saints as soon as possible (SoS off CD is a useless SoS). So burn some MP and use it as soon as you're 1000-1200 mp under cap. By the time shroud ends, you're on max MP again
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