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  1. #51
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    i realize roles dont matter since we can switch in the match itself. Would you like video proof of my wait times? Why are you completely unwilling to listen to those who are legitimately having an issue? the issue is NOT solely based on GC affiliation, time of day, or any other issue that the player has control over. I was part of the Limsa Lominsa GC and switched about 2 weeks ago (my switch had nothing to do with PvP wait times, at the time i switched I was unaware of the discrepency in numbers) and I noticed 0 difference in wait times. It sucked too cause When I switched I lost my 22 levels in PvP experience and had to start from scratch. I would really like it if wait times were 10 min.

    Yesterday, I set myself up for a queue and forgot about it. Went grocery shopping for over an hour, came home. put them away, cooked dinner, then sat down to eat. That was when i noticed I was still waiting in a queue. That happened between 4pm and 7pm PST (West coast Canada). This has become the norm.

    I do think that a viable solution would be to reunite all servers and databases for PvP queue's. even if its just for frontlines. At least then there would be a larger pool to draw from.

    Okay, but so in your example:

    You are living on a server that was designated 'EU'. So your server primetimes are actually 7am-2pmish your Western Canada time. (Basing this on roughly 4pm-11pm Paris time). Not only that, overall, the EU data cluster tends to be slightly less populated than the NA/JA clusters. So yes, if you queue for large-scale content of ANY kind, when the majority of the players in your data center are asleep, you will have longer queues.

    Add onto that, that you have to wait for a balance AvMvF setup, and you have a recipe for long queues.

    The best way for you to decrease your overall queues, has less to do with what Grand Company you play for and what data center you're on. Join a more NA time centered data center. But in your personal case, it has less to do with 'broken queues' and more to do with 'lack of player interest'. The queues don't work if people actually aren't queueing to do the content. (Anyone who's queued Cape Westwind as a solo DD after most people cleared it can already tell you this).


    And to everyone, but ESP Maelstorms. If you have a LOOOONG queue. Try again at a different time of day (if possible). I get my best queues on my data center either mid-afternoon and/or 10pm-1am EST. I suspect this is because there is a group of people who logs in and does their PvP matches first thing (maybe because they can queue/cook supper etc), and last thing at night (after they finish their static content/hunts etc). There was a week when my queues were long as well, and I just learned to NOT queue at those times+ playerbase balance in the FC memberships changed=I typically only have a 5-10 minute wait.

    My Maelstorm FC mate waits 20 mins on ave, with longer queues being 40mins.
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  2. #52
    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Saviour Divinemight
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    i realize roles dont matter since we can switch in the match itself.
    You live in west coast but you play on EU server where majority of players are UK...... I dont think I need to say anything to solve this riddle. Your issue has nothing to do with the que system or GC afflication.
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  3. #53
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    Sora Burakku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Okay, but so in your example:

    You are living on a server that was designated 'EU'. So your server primetimes are actually 7am-2pmish your Western Canada time. (Basing this on roughly 4pm-11pm Paris time). Not only that, overall, the EU data cluster tends to be slightly less populated than the NA/JA clusters. So yes, if you queue for large-scale content of ANY kind, when the majority of the players in your data center are asleep, you will have longer queues.

    Add onto that, that you have to wait for a balance AvMvF setup, and you have a recipe for long queues.

    The best way for you to decrease your overall queues, has less to do with what Grand Company you play for and what data center you're on. Join a more NA time centered data center. But in your personal case, it has less to do with 'broken queues' and more to do with 'lack of player interest'. The queues don't work if people actually aren't queueing to do the content. (Anyone who's queued Cape Westwind as a solo DD after most people cleared it can already tell you this).


    And to everyone, but ESP Maelstorms. If you have a LOOOONG queue. Try again at a different time of day (if possible). I get my best queues on my data center either mid-afternoon and/or 10pm-1am EST. I suspect this is because there is a group of people who logs in and does their PvP matches first thing (maybe because they can queue/cook supper etc), and last thing at night (after they finish their static content/hunts etc). There was a week when my queues were long as well, and I just learned to NOT queue at those times+ playerbase balance in the FC memberships changed=I typically only have a 5-10 minute wait.

    My Maelstorm FC mate waits 20 mins on ave, with longer queues being 40mins.
    I realize my particular server is an EU server but I was pretty sure that the DF and PvP queue matching systems match across servers within a particular Data Center. All data centers have a mix of JP/NA/EU servers. If that is the case then the peak times for my particular server should not necessarily matter when I'm entering a Queue that pulls from other servers. Unless I am wrong. I have been wrong before and will be again. Really though, if the queues only took from the server you are on, the wait times could be days long with all the other factors involved.

    I do notice things are a little better on saturdays and sundays but there are many reasons for that. I'm not complaining, only trying to point out that there is an issue that exists. I still think a solution would be to expand frontlines to mix parties across data centers as well as servers. That might help but if there is a problem that exists within the way DF is prioritizing queues and creating matches then expanding on the pool of players it draws from wont make a difference.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I realize my particular server is an EU server but I was pretty sure that the DF and PvP queue matching systems match across servers within a particular Data Center. All data centers have a mix of JP/NA/EU servers.
    No, you are wrong on this, Data centers only contain related regional worlds. IE Primal Data Center= only NA based servers.
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  5. #55
    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I realize my particular server is an EU server but I was pretty sure that the DF and PvP queue matching systems match across servers within a particular Data Center. .
    Nope



    Chaos Data Centre is made up by EU servers.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    No, you are wrong on this, Data centers only contain related regional worlds. IE Primal Data Center= only NA based servers.
    I stand corrected, thanks! I looked it up and sure enough, all worlds on my data center are "EU" If i didnt have to transfer 6 characters at $20 a pop (me and my family are on same server) then I would move in a heartbeat. Only reason I was here is my EX-FC convinced me to move from balmung. Worst choice I made...

    Sorry for misconceptions I had. Hopefully I can get transferred at some point and see how much difference there is in queue times.
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  7. #57
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    Gonna leave that there for data center info. :x
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    3 members of my FC queued for FL, and the one who joined the queue 1st, got in about 20 minutes after the other 2 ppl. All were on dps and in same GC. Yh, totally not broken.
    Yet people have been ignoring this specifically.

    The priority system is messed up.
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  9. #59
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Queue times is one thing, but if you end up joining with less than a full party it gets annoying.

    Honestly, I've been to groups with only 4 people in an alliance. Do you know how frustrating that is to know that you'll lose before the fight even starts?
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  10. #60
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    Tony Dincht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    If you fail to see the sacasm, I am being sacastic because I know he wont. Why would he do that when Malestorm has 42% winning ratio when Twin Adders only ahs 27% on the Primal.
    Since you obviously can't read, I'm in Maelstrom BECAUSE OF THE GEAR. I am NOT switching Grand Companies, Because I don't like Adders gear OR Flame gear. I don't give a crap about win ratio, I have been in Maelstrom since ONE POINT ZERO. You know they didn't have PvP back then, right? But I should not be forced to switch companies and lose the vanity I enjoy because some babies have to be on the winning team. This problem is EASILY remedied by making 3 random teams, non-GC or skill specific.
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