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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zell1226 View Post
    My point is, this system is clearly not working. I'm not sure who they're trying to appeal to at the moment.
    The system is working fine. JP community is evenly distribued among three GCs for the frontline while EN community is not. This is why it does not seem to appeal to you, but it doesnt mean system is not working fine. I was unable to find any topic in regard to complain of que time on both JP PvP fourm and JP 2ch. This is an issue that only apply to EN community because of our own mindset. The mindset of jumping to the winning wagon is something need to be resolve within our community. You are making a false claim and assumption based on your own personal experience as a Malestorm.

    The number of players that are enjoying GC vs GC vs GC is much greater than you think. JP community seems to enjoying this competition system and their Frontline participant number is greater than us according to Yoship. You need a lot more solid reference and stactic number to show your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    You are making a false claim and assumption based on your own personal experience as a Malestorm.
    My own personal experience and several others. This isn't JUST me. Again, I have been with Maelstrom since 1.0, why is it fair for me to HAVE to switch if I ever want to even ENTER frontlines? Also, we already know they favor JP players, you don't need to remind us. Don't blame people like me for "jumping ship and winning", I've only even been able to play one stupid game. If I could fix this issue, I would.
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zell1226 View Post
    My own personal experience and several others. This isn't JUST me. Again, I have been with Maelstrom since 1.0, why is it fair for me to HAVE to switch if I ever want to even ENTER frontlines? Also, we already know they favor JP players, you don't need to remind us. Don't blame people like me for "jumping ship and winning", I've only even been able to play one stupid game. If I could fix this issue, I would.
    Do you even read what I am saying? You sound like a kid crying: "Daddy dont love me." The number of Malestorm on English data centre is much greater, especially on Primal Data Centre, Malestorm number is overwhelming and there is simply not enouch Twin Adders to lower your que time. You can help to resolve the issue by join the Twin Adder, now, would you do that?

    Favorism? Are you out of your mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    You can help to resolve the issue by join the Twin Adder, now, would you do that?
    This is a dumb solution. He shouldn't have to change his grand company. The people that switched GC to maelstrom for frontlines should have to change back not him.
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barimu View Post
    This is a dumb solution. He shouldn't have to change his grand company. The people that switched GC to maelstrom for frontlines should have to change back not him.
    If you fail to see the sacasm, I am being sacastic because I know he wont. Why would he do that when Malestorm has 42% winning ratio when Twin Adders only ahs 27% on the Primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    If you fail to see the sacasm, I am being sacastic because I know he wont. Why would he do that when Malestorm has 42% winning ratio when Twin Adders only ahs 27% on the Primal.
    Since you obviously can't read, I'm in Maelstrom BECAUSE OF THE GEAR. I am NOT switching Grand Companies, Because I don't like Adders gear OR Flame gear. I don't give a crap about win ratio, I have been in Maelstrom since ONE POINT ZERO. You know they didn't have PvP back then, right? But I should not be forced to switch companies and lose the vanity I enjoy because some babies have to be on the winning team. This problem is EASILY remedied by making 3 random teams, non-GC or skill specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    The system is working fine. JP community is evenly distribued among three GCs for the frontline while EN community is not. This is why it does not seem to appeal to you, but it doesnt mean system is not working fine. I was unable to find any topic in regard to complain of que time on both JP PvP fourm and JP 2ch. This is an issue that only apply to EN community because of our own mindset. The mindset of jumping to the winning wagon is something need to be resolve within our community. You are making a false claim and assumption based on your own personal experience as a Malestorm.

    The number of players that are enjoying GC vs GC vs GC is much greater than you think. JP community seems to enjoying this competition system and their Frontline participant number is greater than us according to Yoship. You need a lot more solid reference and stactic number to show your point.
    I assure you, the wait times are real and the systems matching is not functioning as expected. As i stated earlier, I'm Twin Adders queuing as a MRD/WAR during peak times and I've waited up to 3 hours for a queue. Then I get my son to Queue, sometimes after 30 or more minutes after I've been waiting, on his tank (also Adders) and he gets in before me. Something is not working somewhere.

    May I ask how your queue times are, what company you are, and what role you queue as?
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    May I ask how your queue times are, what company you are, and what role you queue as?
    I also assure you, job has no impact on que system. I am Twin Adder, Primal Date Centre, que as PLD, MNK, or BRD. Que time is average around instant to 10 mins. I can provide video as proof if you want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    I also assure you, job has no impact on que system. I am Twin Adder, Primal Date Centre, que as PLD, MNK, or BRD. Que time is average around instant to 10 mins. I can provide video as proof if you want it.
    i realize roles dont matter since we can switch in the match itself. Would you like video proof of my wait times? Why are you completely unwilling to listen to those who are legitimately having an issue? the issue is NOT solely based on GC affiliation, time of day, or any other issue that the player has control over. I was part of the Limsa Lominsa GC and switched about 2 weeks ago (my switch had nothing to do with PvP wait times, at the time i switched I was unaware of the discrepency in numbers) and I noticed 0 difference in wait times. It sucked too cause When I switched I lost my 22 levels in PvP experience and had to start from scratch. I would really like it if wait times were 10 min.

    Yesterday, I set myself up for a queue and forgot about it. Went grocery shopping for over an hour, came home. put them away, cooked dinner, then sat down to eat. That was when i noticed I was still waiting in a queue. That happened between 4pm and 7pm PST (West coast Canada). This has become the norm.

    I do think that a viable solution would be to reunite all servers and databases for PvP queue's. even if its just for frontlines. At least then there would be a larger pool to draw from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    i realize roles dont matter since we can switch in the match itself. Would you like video proof of my wait times? Why are you completely unwilling to listen to those who are legitimately having an issue? the issue is NOT solely based on GC affiliation, time of day, or any other issue that the player has control over. I was part of the Limsa Lominsa GC and switched about 2 weeks ago (my switch had nothing to do with PvP wait times, at the time i switched I was unaware of the discrepency in numbers) and I noticed 0 difference in wait times. It sucked too cause When I switched I lost my 22 levels in PvP experience and had to start from scratch. I would really like it if wait times were 10 min.

    Yesterday, I set myself up for a queue and forgot about it. Went grocery shopping for over an hour, came home. put them away, cooked dinner, then sat down to eat. That was when i noticed I was still waiting in a queue. That happened between 4pm and 7pm PST (West coast Canada). This has become the norm.

    I do think that a viable solution would be to reunite all servers and databases for PvP queue's. even if its just for frontlines. At least then there would be a larger pool to draw from.

    Okay, but so in your example:

    You are living on a server that was designated 'EU'. So your server primetimes are actually 7am-2pmish your Western Canada time. (Basing this on roughly 4pm-11pm Paris time). Not only that, overall, the EU data cluster tends to be slightly less populated than the NA/JA clusters. So yes, if you queue for large-scale content of ANY kind, when the majority of the players in your data center are asleep, you will have longer queues.

    Add onto that, that you have to wait for a balance AvMvF setup, and you have a recipe for long queues.

    The best way for you to decrease your overall queues, has less to do with what Grand Company you play for and what data center you're on. Join a more NA time centered data center. But in your personal case, it has less to do with 'broken queues' and more to do with 'lack of player interest'. The queues don't work if people actually aren't queueing to do the content. (Anyone who's queued Cape Westwind as a solo DD after most people cleared it can already tell you this).


    And to everyone, but ESP Maelstorms. If you have a LOOOONG queue. Try again at a different time of day (if possible). I get my best queues on my data center either mid-afternoon and/or 10pm-1am EST. I suspect this is because there is a group of people who logs in and does their PvP matches first thing (maybe because they can queue/cook supper etc), and last thing at night (after they finish their static content/hunts etc). There was a week when my queues were long as well, and I just learned to NOT queue at those times+ playerbase balance in the FC memberships changed=I typically only have a 5-10 minute wait.

    My Maelstorm FC mate waits 20 mins on ave, with longer queues being 40mins.
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