Frontlines queue is broken.

[Altena]

The thing is even though that you’ve clicked on Commit, if someone else does not click on Commence before the time runs out or clicks on Decline, you will see the same message that the registration was withdrawn.

I was solo queued.

In another instance I was queued in with a friend. We both saw 70/72 players, and the registration was withdrawn. It is nothing other then a bug.

Queues don't work like they do for CT - if some random in another party withdraws - it doesn't depop the queue. In frontlines it enters those that hit confirm, and replaces those that withdrew.

The Duty finder queue consists of several phases: Reserving an Instance, Forming a party, finding missing members for the party and confirming/commencing the duty. etc

This is all irrelevant to the part of my OP that you quoted..

All 3 of us queue up solo and on the same class. The one that queues up first does not always get the pop first.

To test it. When you queue up with your friends, ask what their wait times are. You will most likely hear quite a few different numbers.

As mentioned earlier in this thread (mainly by others), the average wait times are shared across GC's, which is a poor oversight.
I have already "tested" this as you mentioned by doing just that - asking what their wait times are (on the same class) and they are the same. Different on different classes also - despite Frontlines not actually taking role into account.

In my opinion, i would check if the Duty Finder actually matches together groups that do not follow the predetermined party Composition and forms parties consisting of more then 2 healers and no tanks.

Party composition is ignored, as mentioned within this thread.

Perhaps people are able to change their jobs when they enter Frontlines?

Yes, at the spawn point players are freely able to switch to any class. Hence why what job you queue up for is irrelevant.

But, especially the 4 healer party, sounds like a bug and you should keep reporting it with as much Info as possible.

This is very normal, and not exactly a "bad" thing from a strategic point of view. Issue here is that the "wait times" appear as though there is a job priority when there is obviously not, which is partly why I think the queue system is not functioning correctly.

It often feels like there is a job priority when you actually queue, but once the duty finder starts putting the actual parties together it just shoves people in where it can. I could definitely be wrong as no one can really tell what is happening behind that little queue box.

[Zell1226]

It sure is annoying being Maelstrom since 1.0, and getting stuck with these garbage queue times because apparently they win a lot. I'm not switching GCs because I like the Maelstrom gear.

Frontlines should not be GC based. It should just be 3 different teams going against each other. Who the hell cares about lore behind PvP anyway?

[Tupsi]

Who the hell cares about lore behind PvP anyway?

You have Wolves Den. Frontlines is all about lore..the entire area is lore based.

[Zell1226]

You have Wolves Den. Frontlines is all about lore..the entire area is lore based.

I get that. My question was, who the hell cares? Anyone that wants to PvP is there to PvP. Not to roleplay.

[Tupsi]

I get that. My question was, who the hell cares? Anyone that wants to PvP is there to PvP. Not to roleplay.

Hence: "You have Wolves Den."

That's purely about PvP. You don't even have to 'roleplay', the fact it's lore based Grand Company vs Grand Company gameplay means it's a bit silly to complain about that when the alternative has been there for ages

[Zell1226]

Hence: "You have Wolves Den."

That's purely about PvP. You don't even have to 'roleplay', the fact it's lore based Grand Company vs Grand Company gameplay means it's a bit silly to complain about that when the alternative has been there for ages

You don't get it. Frontlines shouldn't be special "non-PvP" roleplay zone for Grand Companies. It is still PvP, and a larger scale PvP than Wolves Den. Some people prefer that, I honestly find large scale PvP more fun myself, having played RO for god knows how many years. Let me put it this way, if you take the grand companies out of it and make it "Team A, Team B, Team C", does it change anything? No, but it sure makes queue times a lot faster by throwing in 72 people in random groups together. It also makes fights not completely one-sided. I also would like to do frontlines because it gives massive experience and wolf marks. Win trading in PvP is not fun, and doing it the normal way is beyond slow.

My point is, this system is clearly not working. I'm not sure who they're trying to appeal to at the moment.

[Divinemight]

My point is, this system is clearly not working. I'm not sure who they're trying to appeal to at the moment.

The system is working fine. JP community is evenly distribued among three GCs for the frontline while EN community is not. This is why it does not seem to appeal to you, but it doesnt mean system is not working fine. I was unable to find any topic in regard to complain of que time on both JP PvP fourm and JP 2ch. This is an issue that only apply to EN community because of our own mindset. The mindset of jumping to the winning wagon is something need to be resolve within our community. You are making a false claim and assumption based on your own personal experience as a Malestorm.

The number of players that are enjoying GC vs GC vs GC is much greater than you think. JP community seems to enjoying this competition system and their Frontline participant number is greater than us according to Yoship. You need a lot more solid reference and stactic number to show your point.

[Kinseykinz]

I get that. My question was, who the hell cares? Anyone that wants to PvP is there to PvP. Not to roleplay.

I don't exactly roleplay...but I AM proud to be a Twin Adder. I really DO like playing with other folks that are 'Adders' because it gives us something in common, even if it is a small thing. Also, because I'm not in the GC that everyone 'hops' to hoping for an easy-win ratio, every win I get I can be proud of my team/adders because they remained dedicated to the Adders vs. just leaving for the 'winning' side. Also, now that they made the PvP rankings public, I don't worry so much about my win:loss ratio, as well, It's within the ave rate for my team AND I pug every match...so I don't have the slightly better odds of the power of pre-made communication.

Lastly, I LIKE the adders lore/city/gears/horse better. I don't want anything else....even my alts are Adders because I just can't be anything else. Tree Hugger for life I guess.