level 50 gear from dungeons

[Ooshima]

But seriously, it is fine as it is. Don't be a sour grape because Yoshida didn't favor you on that RNG roll.

[HeroSamson]

But seriously, it is fine as it is. Don't be a sour grape because Yoshida didn't favor you on that RNG roll.

Don't skip ahead and not read.

[Ooshima]

Don't skip ahead and not read.

I've read it. It is WORSE than those QQs who say that level 50 chars should not lot gears in low level dungeons, lmao.

Everyone have equal rights to lot on the gear if system allows. Don't be a sour grape cos you lost a roll.

[HeroSamson]

I've read it. It is WORSE than those QQs who say that level 50 chars should not lot gears in low level dungeons, lmao.

Everyone have equal rights to lot on the gear if system allows. Don't be a sour grape cos you lost a roll.

That's the thing you assume I lost a roll, Can you tell me what I lost a roll to? I only go for dragoon and paladin stuff. though I stopped going for paladin stuff and run dungeons only dragoon.

So you gonna assume some more?

If I did lose to someone I wouldn't care.

I think of long term effects of game play.

[Ooshima]

No one likes the idea, I'll give you the reasons right now why.

getting gear ahead of time, meaning you don't have to run the dungeon anymore unless it is for a weekly or daily.

It will stop some of you from grand company exchanging for gil.

also you don't wanna run dungeons more than you have to.

That's the thing you assume I lost a roll, Can you tell me what I lost a roll to? I only go for dragoon and paladin stuff. though I stopped going for paladin stuff and run dungeons only dragoon.

So you gonna assume some more?

If I did lose to someone I wouldn't care.

I think of long term effects of game play.

What long term effects of game play are you talking about?

All lvl 50 dungeon loots are crap, because i90 gear are abundant via abundant myths. The rest are really for glamours for these group of players. What's the difference between a player with that job at 50 and another player without that job at 50 to roll on that item for glamour? Heck, I leveled my PGL to 50 because I had the Fistfighter chest and I wanted to wear it. Some people level up that job and learn to play it because they got a high level weapon for that job. This is actually a positive effect.

You know it is a bad idea, it is indeed a really bad idea that made no sense and the player base won't accept.

/death of thread.

[SulwynCaliope]

So what you're saying is that people who leveled all jobs to 50 but don't use those jobs at all have a right to screw over other players in the process of leveling those jobs and have intentions of actually using those jobs as a sub class. Because of fates and leve quests etc, it's ridiculously easy to lvl a class to 50 in almost no time at all. Most of us don't do it because we're lazy but I know several people who have done so. Most of the time they've just leveled the classes for the achievements but have no intentions of ever using that class in any serious content (or at all really). Following your logic, they have more rights to the gear than someone who has serious intentions of using the class.

[HeroSamson]

So what you're saying is that people who leveled all jobs to 50 but don't use those jobs at all have a right to screw over other players in the process of leveling those jobs and have intentions of actually using those jobs as a sub class. Because of fates and leve quests etc, it's ridiculously easy to lvl a class to 50 in almost no time at all. Most of us don't do it because we're lazy but I know several people who have done so. Most of the time they've just leveled the classes for the achievements but have no intentions of ever using that class in any serious content (or at all really). Following your logic, they have more rights to the gear than someone who has serious intentions of using the class.

exactly, you pointed it out.

Most don't level up your jobs cause you are lazy, people complain there aren't enough tanks or healers to fill the dungeons, I am just trying to find a solution to make people get on those jobs and level them.

[SulwynCaliope]

exactly, you pointed it out.

Most don't level up your jobs cause you are lazy, people complain there aren't enough tanks or healers to fill the dungeons, I am just trying to find a solution to make people get on those jobs and level them.

Except all your system is going to do is force people to play classes they never wanted to in the first place. Most *still* won't level the other jobs since as I said, people are lazy. Out of those that do though, I'm betting most of them will be HORRIBLE at either tanking or healing. As a healer, I have enough stories of terrible tanks to fill a thick book. I don't exactly feel like adding more. Dungeon queues won't get any shorter and more people will have bad experiences in dungeons. How does that better the community at all?

[HeroSamson]

I'm betting most of them will be HORRIBLE at either tanking or healing.

I would rather have that, than in the future be flagged up for a queque for 3-5 hours.

Cause just imagine when all the other jobs come out, how bad it will be if they did the FFXI way where there were only 2 tank jobs and the rest were healers and dps.

If you played FFXI around 2006 or 07 they had a huge problem with people getting partys because of a shortage of tanks and healers. because they all got their stuff too quick.

Just imagine sitting there all day without no party.

Don't say it couldn't happen cause it can.

It already does at night time, I waited around 8 hours for a duty. I just logged out.

[HeroSamson]

Anyways.

Last statement I am gonna make.

Because I have all my paladin stuff, I start thinking like you guys, let me stop playing my paladin job unless I need to, just get my time sand or oils for that job with my dragoon.

I mean I got all my glamour stuff and almost finished with my nov weapon and shield. No need to run dungeons on it anymore. if I start thinking that way this game is in trouble.