Pugilist role in groups... a Tank or a Damage Dealer?

[Lienn]

I'm getting kinda tired of the forums saying I can't tank, when my LS and I know better.

I never said you can't tank ^^: I just said its harder now that the taunt was nerfed. I do consider PGL a tank class and believe it can tank...the only problem is that now the enmity is flowing too fast...maybe after next balancing patch it can resume doing it very well again.

[Viridiana]

I never said you can't tank ^^: I just said its harder now that the taunt was nerfed. I do consider PGL a tank class and believe it can tank...the only problem is that now the enmity is flowing too fast...maybe after next balancing patch it can resume doing it very well again.

Thing is, I don't have enmity issues, and my survivability issues would be fixed by getting Defender II.

[Murugan]

I never said you can't tank ^^: I just said its harder now that the taunt was nerfed. I do consider PGL a tank class and believe it can tank...the only problem is that now the enmity is flowing too fast...maybe after next balancing patch it can resume doing it very well again.

Taunt wasn't nerfed maybe you just don't understand what Taunt does. If you are using taunt as your primary means to build enmity you are doing it wrong.

I only use taunt when I need to focus the mob on me. So if I have aggro, and unless for some reason I know my enmity is gonna dip, I never use taunt. Taunt is much too valuable to be wasting like that.

[Lienn]

Taunt wasn't nerfed maybe you just don't understand what Taunt does. If you are using taunt as your primary means to build enmity you are doing it wrong.

I only use taunt when I need to focus the mob on me. So if I have aggro, and unless for some reason I know my enmity is gonna dip, I never use taunt. Taunt is much too valuable to be wasting like that.

Well, by what i know it "was" like this, no? I would have to double check it...if i said i tried really hard tanking as PGL after 1.18 i'd be lying.

[Lienn]

Taunt wasn't nerfed maybe you just don't understand what Taunt does. If you are using taunt as your primary means to build enmity you are doing it wrong.

I only use taunt when I need to focus the mob on me. So if I have aggro, and unless for some reason I know my enmity is gonna dip, I never use taunt. Taunt is much too valuable to be wasting like that.

I forgot to say...you're correct. I was giving taunt a try one of these days...it indeed does not generate enmity anymore.

[Ottovonawesome]

I see the PUG as being intended as a "scrapper" his role is to attach to stray agro's and mobs that run off toward the squishy back rank fellows that the main tank maybe too busy to deal with on account of him fighting for his life. Seems SE intended to add elements from other mmo's to the current classes so as not to make them just DD onry archer excluded. MRD might currently stink but he's supposed stand next to tank and draw agro with AoE, LNC support dd designed to stick hate and buff the melee effort while PUG is to stand ready waiting for unexcpected developments and deal with them like rogue'ish independant hero that he is. I have a PUG that I play with that personifies this perfectly always running off to hold mobs while the main group deals with the original threat. I think the new star wars mmo also has taken the jedi class to do this very thing.

[Jdog]

Taunt wasn't nerfed maybe you just don't understand what Taunt does. If you are using taunt as your primary means to build enmity you are doing it wrong.

I only use taunt when I need to focus the mob on me. So if I have aggro, and unless for some reason I know my enmity is gonna dip, I never use taunt. Taunt is much too valuable to be wasting like that.

Taunt was nerfed.... It was a 30 second cooldown, now its 50 seconds, i would say that's a nerf

[Akuun]

Taunt wasn't nerfed maybe you just don't understand what Taunt does. If you are using taunt as your primary means to build enmity you are doing it wrong.

I only use taunt when I need to focus the mob on me. So if I have aggro, and unless for some reason I know my enmity is gonna dip, I never use taunt. Taunt is much too valuable to be wasting like that.

Taunt was nerfed.... It was a 30 second cooldown, now its 50 seconds, i would say that's a nerf

I think what he's trying to say is that it doesn't nerf pugilist as a tank.
I would have to agree, I actually rarely used this ability to tank, accomplice and our threat holding attacks tend to be more than enough.
Taunt can also be used as a catalyst for simian thrash when you're not the tank, as it still forces the target to attack you for a short time.