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  1. #91
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    Bamboofox's Avatar
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    Rio D'khan
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    If you were doing any kind of DPS (not the odd swing) during the Behemoth battle, you're in the wrong. If you're not tanking KB or IG then you're on a tower. If you're neglecting your tower then someone else has to do it (Healer or another DPS)..and you're kidding yourself if you think Warrior DPS is putting out more steady damage than an actual DPS.
    I completely agree with the rest of your post, but I just wanted to chime in that if you're on a tower closest to Behemoth or the IG, there's enough time between tower pops for you to do three attacks (a full combo, basically) before you need to run back and smash that button. >.>
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  2. #92
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    Laraul Lunacy
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    The vote kick should be more transparent.

    When a vote kicked is initiated it should display via the log window the vote kick initiator, player who they want vote kicked, and the reason. It should display this to everyone. People think twice before doing something if everyone knows about it.

    Abuse the vote kick and you may end up being vote kicked yourself.
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    Last edited by Laraul; 11-25-2014 at 04:07 AM.

  3. #93
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I'm assuming a lot in your situation, so apologies if I'm over-assuming.

    In CT there are 6 tanks, and arguably it is pretty boring and a lot of places you can indeed do the DPS thing as warrior at MANY parts. Because you were kicked I have to assume that you were not doing your job at certain key parts and attention was drawn to you for that.

    Bottom line: when it's time to Tank, that's your main job full stop. If you say "well I wanna DPS, you Tank" then you're in the wrong.

    If you were doing any kind of DPS (not the odd swing) during the Behemoth battle, you're in the wrong. If you're not tanking KB or IG then you're on a tower. If you're neglecting your tower then someone else has to do it (Healer or another DPS)..and you're kidding yourself if you think Warrior DPS is putting out more steady damage than an actual DPS.
    If you're assuming that a tank can't out damage a dps, you're completely wrong.
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  4. #94
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    Alukah Bast
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    The vote kick should be more transparent.

    When a vote kicked is initiated it should display via the log window the vote kick initiator, player who they want vote kicked, and the reason. It should display this to everyone. People think twice before doing something if everyone knows about it.

    Abuse the vote kick and you may end up being vote kicked yourself.
    Why does it matter who started the vote kick? If the majority of the party agrees with the kick it will go through, if they disagree then it won't go through, making the name visible will only encourage retaliation against that person if the vote kick doesn't go through.

    If you think the tool was used as a Grief Tactic™ then just report it, GMs are able to see who started it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    If you're assuming that a tank can't out damage a dps, you're completely wrong.
    Equally geared? Equally skilled? No.
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  5. #95
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    Sub-Xero's Avatar
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    Godric Blackblade
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Personally, I think the "Vote to Kick" system is underused. I'm sick and tired of doing content with people that refuse to do their basic job functions yet are allowed to be carried through content. If that upsets you "Care Bears" out there then so be it. If you're terrible you need to stop "harassing" people with your terribleness and quit wasting everyone's time. Please do understand that I do not mean people need to be ultra-elite top tier players but if you cannot perform BASIC job functions or perform your essential role in a fight (if you can't stand in front of a damn tower and click it then you can get the fudge out) then you should be replaced by someone that can/will.
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  6. #96
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    It should display this to everyone. People think twice before doing something if everyone knows about it.

    Abuse the vote kick and you may end up being vote kicked yourself.
    Or, attempt to use the vote kick perfectly legitimately and end up being vote kicked yourself. And/or stalked and harassed afterward.

    Anonymity, and a lack of anonymity, are both double-edged swords.
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    10 posts per page is only the default setting; it is bad, and you should feel bad if you haven't changed it.
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  7. #97
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    Equally geared? Equally skilled? No.
    A large amount of DPS on DF are incredibly inept at their jobs.
    Problems can range from bad rotations to laziness to crap equipment setups. (MND accessories on casters, DEX acessories on DRG/MNK...etc.)
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  8. #98
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Yeah this is nothing new at all. Have had healers, blm's and other classes leave as soon as they got the items they needed, even had some leave because they lost rolls i guess.
    Vote dismiss however is useful for those that do nothing but harass the group, have had a tank like a week ago (PLD) that basically called me out as a bad Nin because i did not use Goad on him for the first room, well short story we vote dismissed him
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  9. #99
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    Selendis Aiur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    There's also a typo on that GM respond:

    "categorisation"? lol

    Also, mind posting that last message GM mentioned on that reply? Omitting player names ofc.
    not a typo. Just not american spelling
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  10. #100
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    Tahlato Dakwhil
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    Malboro
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    Armorer Lv 57
    @OP - Vote Abuse is not allowed. It was decided that the actions to vote kick you was valid.

    You may not agree with it, and that is your right! You had the right also to REPORT them which you did.

    GM's have even replied to this thread, and have given a great example.

    Now my question to you is, are you satisfied with their response? Bring some closure, and help others that are in the same situation as yourself.

    -Tari

    p.s. I read this entire thread!
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    I am a winner, even though I sometimes fail.

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