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  1. #1
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    StarHate's Avatar
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    Magitek Automaton
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Memento View Post
    No one told you you had to do Animus. You knew what the requirements were and what might happen (including rare FATES.) If that wasn't something you were on board with why sign up? There are plenty of other weapon alternatives for those that don't have the time or the will to fulfill the relic weapon requirements.
    You seem to be missing the entire point. In the last couple patches they changed it so that the longer it has been since a fate spawned, the more likely it is to spawn. If you are clearing the area, no single fate should take longer than 3 hours to spawn. The OP is saying that isn't happening as she waited for more than 3 hours clearing fates and it didn't pop. Wanting or not wanting to do her animus has 0 correlation with the change they made to fates not working.

    edit - I went and checked, it is the 2.3 patch notes: "The chance of a FATE occurring will increase the more time passes since its last occurrence, increasing the overall frequency of FATEs."
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    Last edited by StarHate; 08-14-2014 at 03:07 AM.

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    Anville Draake
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    If you're sitting and waiting, you're doing it wrong.

    Get out there and complete other fates in the same zone. Only so many will be up at any one time, and you can clear a fate faster than the time it takes for it to expire.

    Just keep your map open and as soon as it pops, drop everything and run to it. Run like it's a soldier back from war.

    I have only had one stubborn fate, in Blue Fog. Took about 80 minutes for that bastard to pop. But the rest are less than 20 minutes at most.
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    Last edited by star_witness; 08-13-2014 at 01:04 PM.

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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by star_witness View Post
    If you're sitting and waiting, you're doing it wrong.

    Get out there and complete other fates in the same zone. Only so many will be up at any one time, and you can clear a fate faster than the time it takes for it to expire.
    I agree that you're doing it wrong if you just sit and wait, but in a zone like Coerthas you really can't go do other fates and expect to make it back to the one you need when it does pop. The zone being so huge is bad enough, but then you have the lack of aetherytes outside of Dragonhead to deal with. What I do when I'm waiting on book fates is I just take some items to craft, then throw them on the market when I'm done with the fate. It can be anything, really. Ingots, food, whatever. You can at least make the wait time productive.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by star_witness View Post
    If you're sitting and waiting, you're doing it wrong.

    Get out there and complete other fates in the same zone.

    This is true to an extent, however FATEs that are tied to things like Animus/Novus/Hunts have been altered for whatever reason. Menos for example used to always spawn at a consistent rate but now it seems to be fairly rare at times. (And yes I've timed it pre/post patch.)
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    Seraphima Cyngosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    This is true to an extent, however FATEs that are tied to things like Animus/Novus/Hunts have been altered for whatever reason. Menos for example used to always spawn at a consistent rate but now it seems to be fairly rare at times. (And yes I've timed it pre/post patch.)
    Some fates might of been, taste of fear is not on that list,their was someone else waiting there when I turned up and they said they had been their for an hour, so that's 4hrs at least since last spawn.
    I'm not asking for SE to give me instant credit for the book (as the person implying I was impatient for waiting 3hrs) I'm just asking for it to spawn in a reasonable time frame.
    From what I have read, taken seems to be causing issues too.
    I done a tally
    Giant saps 4 spawns.
    Svara fall 5 spawns
    Roc of ages 8 spawns
    Baa baa black sheep 8 spawns
    Taste of fear 0 spawns
    That really is not working as intended
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    FATEs have been well documented in issues since beta, I'm pretty sure the dev team uses them because they're easy to make with excellent recycle-ability and that's it.

    Zerg issue? Solo Vs Party effort? Time? Difficulty? FATEs is a giant brown flan with some gem elements hidden in its pudgy corners.

    ...I may have some unresolved feelings about FATEs.. lol
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    To the nice person saying about killing other fates, when I said sitting and waiting I meant as in I was in zone,I done all fates that spawned.
    To the idiot that kept talking about coil, this topic is about fates, please don't reply if all you can do is moan about coil.
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    Anville Draake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    To the nice person saying about killing other fates, when I said sitting and waiting I meant as in I was in zone,I done all fates that spawned.
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    It's nice to be called the nice person, and not the idiot for once :-)

    Some days you just can't get those fates to co-operate. The grind for Atmas proves that too well.

    Yeah, if I'm having a real issue, I'll go and do something else. I usually grind out book content like fates and the enemy list while queuing for the dungeons I need. Gotta keep twitching, right?
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    People whining about Coil just want to be geared out in a week so they can whine they have nothing left to do...

    On topic however, some FATEs do have slightly hefty timers on them. It would definitely be nice if there were triggers for at least the quest-tied FATEs. Could even retain a spawn window to avoid FATEs being chain spawned and blocking other FATEs. Even a three hour window doesn't seem that bad if you KNOW if you go out there at X time and satisfy X condition you'll get your FATE to spawn.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Monk Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    People whining about Coil just want to be geared out in a week so they can whine they have nothing left to do...
    Couldn't possibly be wanting to do stuff with the entire FC instead of having to exclude people or feel like you're punishing people because something came up and they weren't able to make it.

    Re: FATEs, the ones I have done lately have generally felt like they didn't take too long. I would really prefer them to be super frequent though as waiting around for them to spawn is the worst. Coerthas is easily the worst place as people have been saying. It's very large and trying to help cycle other FATEs usually ends up with you missing the one you need.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 08-13-2014 at 04:28 PM.

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