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    I vote for Plan A !

    Repairing accessories (Post patch 1.19)
    Plan A: Stop loss of durability of accessories.
    Plan B: Allow NPCs to repair accessories.
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    Zoltan Zornfaust
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    This: "2. When an NPC repairs an item, the level of durability will be restored to 99% of the item’s condition." is ridiculous. Especially combined with: "4. The price for NPC repairs will be greatly lowered."

    "These things mean you won’t feel forced to level a crafting class in order to repair your own equipment."

    Seriously? C'mon man! This is really dumbing down of the game in order to placate some people who may or may not have vented their complaints.

    I think that this is a REALLY bad decision.

    Why can't you stick with how the game is now?

    He didn't address making the actual process of repairing items easier. I saw that the developer in charge of those code changes indicated that sorting based on the level of deterioration of gear was not posible due to the data involved.

    He missed the point. The point was that players want their damaged gear to be sorted to the top of their inventory regardless of what percentage they are damaged.

    It is inconceivable that all DoH jobs could repair any equipment regardless of the job that created the equipment. That is another horrendous idea.

    Since they have already decided to do this, I suggest that they offer two levels of repair from NPCs. One at 75% and one at 99%. Simply raise the 99% repair price and keep the 75% repair price as it is.

    If they do this to crafters, it would be really nice to have separate inventory for gear/tools/weapons and items.
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    Last edited by Zoltan; 09-15-2011 at 05:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    This: "2. When an NPC repairs an item, the level of durability will be restored to 99% of the item’s condition." is ridiculous. Especially combined with: "4. The price for NPC repairs will be greatly lowered."

    "These things mean you won’t feel forced to level a crafting class in order to repair your own equipment."

    Seriously? C'mon man! This is really dumbing down of the game in order to placate some people who may or may not have vented their complaints.

    I think that this is a REALLY bad decision.


    Why can't you stick with how the game is now?

    He didn't address making the actual process of repairing items easier. I saw that the developer in charge of those code changes indicated that sorting based on the level of deterioration of gear was not posible due to the data involved.

    He missed the point. The point was that players want their damaged gear to be sorted to the top of their inventory regardless of what percentage they are damaged.
    Also being able to quickly put dmged gear up for repair without unequipping it first, going into inventory, waiting for UI to respond, etc. This would solve much of the irritation.
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    By repair anything from any class, I believe it's just a convenience as opposed to changing classes between repairs. You'd still need the proper ranks in the other classes. What I don't is that little glitch in which between sitting and standing after a repair, "Browse" vanishes and trade / invite / LS invite is highlighted, causing a lot of accidental invites and trades. There's barely enough time to change classes with a macro and hit "browse" before it vanishes. Repairs are fast and competitive.

    Another thing. Please stop deducting from a player's inventory when they put an item up for repair. Make it yellow like an item is in the trade window when 'in use' and reserve the space to repair it.
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    Plan A sounds good and i like the charge recast timers on them idea also.
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    Plan B seems the most realistic and fair to crafters who repair said accessories.
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    Repair NPC is too cheap.
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    Lienn Deleene
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    Hated the idea of any crafter being able to repair anything...it just makes no sense at all.

    Adventurer: "Need repair please!"
    Crafter: "Hey, come here! I'll repair your shirt!"
    Adventurer: "thank goodness...its so hard to find a weaver around here..."
    Crafter: "Weaver...?" *pulls a plank and some nails*

    Even if its to make things easier, IMO dark matter already turned things generic enough...this way crafters will completely lose their identity.

    And about accessories...i just wish there was the option "just leave accessories as they are and make slot cost increase with the level"...but this might be like Plan Z i guess... :/
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    Last edited by Lienn; 09-15-2011 at 05:36 AM.

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    I dont believe we need to eliminate durability for accessories. We should just increase its durabilty. No way should accessories be damaged as fast as weapons or armor. I like the idea of being able to repair all gear. Lets face it... a lot of crafter did other crafts so they can repair gear and now there are to many crafters. Secondly though if this was to happen, i dont want it given to me. Make it a lengthy quest for each craft so u can feel you've earned it. The game needs content to slow us down and its a great opportunity to do so. As far as culinarians and alchemist go... maybe they can make a special oil that can increase durability of armors and weapons. I know its not a repair but it would be nice to slow it down a bit.
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    Eadieni Valefor
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    What's really wrong with letting all classes repair anything?

    At least group some of them together .... The point is, if ONE npc can repair you to 99% all items why not let ONE player repair you to 100% in front of the dungeon entrance.

    Perhaps Armorer and Blacksmith could do all the same repairs and
    Weaver and Leatherworker do all the same repairs
    Woodworker and Goldsmith do the same repairs ... I don't know. (Yeah they aren't exactly alike but figured it needs some offset right).

    It's annoying right now to need this setup every time you want 100%:
    Blacksmith for the weapon, woodworker for the shield (possibly)
    armorer for the plate armor
    Goldsmith for the accessories and
    Weaver for the Pants.

    That's ultra time consuming especially considering that Gear breaks even if you aren't dying. Sure, you can say "Die less" but you still lose durability just by playing the game. If you're going to still require 5 different rank 50 players to repair my gear at least take away loss of durability from playing the game, except upon death.
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