So It's against the rules to need for another job?....

[ispano]

That's what you're missing. I'm not asking the person to give their rolls up for me. I'm not even asking them to do anything really. I will never hit need for something I plan to desynth or turn in for seals. Never. I will also never tell someone else they have to roll that way, but I also don't have to play with said person.

As for posts in that other thread, you keep thinking about the one person, ignoring the three others there. That's how it works, if the one is holding back the three, they do not belong. You also think when I say holding back, I make that decision instantly without asking the person or offering advice. You assume I just boot and be on my way. No, I always ask or urge the person to perform, give advice or whatnot. But many times, they do not care, do not listen or do not take it. I personally leave at that point, I've only ever initiated a kick ONCE. But that doesn't mean we should be REQUIRED to let that person stay and hold the group back.