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  1. #71
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    I've found that there isn't much of a bonus for doing leves on more than Solo level. From what I've seen its better to do them fast and easy and move on. I'm getting like 4-5k per leve even at solo dificulty. Then I just do some quests. Havent tried behest since 1.18 went live though
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    I'd personally like some more information on the beastmen encampments.

    What makes them good - do they have a repop rate that makes them come back fast enough to farm? Would they be best fought solo or in a party? What levels are the beastmen at each one?

    I went past a couple but now I'm out of anima and walking everywhere, so it would take a while to scout them all out myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    to those who metioned that my numbers were a bit low, i mentioned earlier i think that no, i was -not- using GF so thats probably why. I save that for my botanist leves. But thanks for letting me know how much sp you get with it ^^ sounds like it doubles your sp.
    I don't think that's the only reason. I was doing some rank 30 leves in Nanawa and only getting some 1.3k, while ones in Cedarwood were giving some 2.4k. I was using Favor for all of them, and if anything I spent more time on some of them that gave a larger bonus.

    I obviously don't have enough data myself, but it would appear at first glance that location and/or leve type matters.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    umm this game was advertised as a solo MMO, up to now its been fine. FFXI was fine. Almost every MMO is fine. 1.18 just messed things up and im sure in like 2 weeks someone will find some legit exploit like a certain mob or something that you can grind on for good sp like in every other patch so far.

    I've never heard of XIV being advertised as a solo game, only "casual friendly." Solo and casual are two different things. MOST of the game's content right now is very casual friendly, as advertised. Like XI, XIV seems to emphasize party play. I honestly think patch 1.18 didn't break soloing, but fixed it, as sp/exp was too high, and along with that, also fixed partying, by making it the better option. If partying isn't the better option no one will do it.
    I'm sure sp and exp will continue to be monitored and some changes will be made, but I have a feeling sp/exp is closer to where it should be NOW than before 1.18.
    I've been soloing most of the time, and I feel exp is fine as is. I have no reason to rush to max level.

    Soloing, I don't think you will be able to find the kind of exp you're looking for, but if I figure out anything I'll post it.
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 07-30-2011 at 11:22 AM.

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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post

    I've never heard of XIV being advertised as a solo game, only "casual friendly." Solo and casual are two different things. MOST of the game's content right now is very casual friendly, as advertised. Like XI, XIV seems to emphasize party play. I honestly think patch 1.18 didn't break soloing, but fixed it, as sp/exp was too high, and along with that, also fixed partying, by making it the better option. If partying isn't the better option no one will do it.
    I'm sure sp and exp will continue to be monitored and some changes will be made, but I have a feeling sp/exp is closer to where it should be NOW than before 1.18.
    I've been soloing most of the time, and I feel exp is fine as is. I have no reason to rush to max level.

    Soloing, I don't think you will be able to find the kind of exp you're looking for, but if I figure out anything I'll post it.
    originally it was advertised as a game where you can -choose- to solo or party. Thats why crafting and gathering were main jobs and not support jobs originally and why all the missions can be done as a rank 1 job (by sneaking around, parley, etc). Then the following patches made partying pretty well inefficient. The coblyn system was pure solo. partying was essentially broken then. And the patch after that made leve linking so good for SP that normal parties pre 40 didn't really compare unless you had rly skilled ppl.


    i think this patch was designed to emphasize party play but no one is partying.... which is disappointing.
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    Maybe on Wutai no one is partying. ON Selbina partying is on fire. Tons of shout groups going on for grind camps.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    originally it was advertised as a game where you can -choose- to solo or party. Thats why crafting and gathering were main jobs and not support jobs originally and why all the missions can be done as a rank 1 job (by sneaking around, parley, etc). Then the following patches made partying pretty well inefficient. The coblyn system was pure solo. partying was essentially broken then. And the patch after that made leve linking so good for SP that normal parties pre 40 didn't really compare unless you had rly skilled ppl.


    I think this patch was designed to emphasize party play but no one is partying.... which is disappointing.


    Ah.. I remember SE saying that now.. thanks for the correction. Perhaps the direction of the game is changing then. I'm unsure. :\ While I hope partying is still emphasized and the best way to go, I hope soloing remains a viable option for those who want it. Since some have said 20-30 is kind of messed up right now, perhaps you can look forward to a fix. The waiting may suck though, if you have to solo.

    On Besaid I hear of many people partying. May differ by server.
    I'm going to try Toto-Rak for sp tonight.

    Best of luck. <3
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    i didn't read the whole thread so im sorry if someone said this but the leves are still being work on not quite up to level they need to be up to atm leves have just been reworked to stop leve failing as a way to level they should be up to par by 1.19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    Ah.. I remember SE saying that now.. thanks for the correction. Perhaps the direction of the game is changing then. I'm unsure. :\ While I hope partying is still emphasized and the best way to go, I hope soloing remains a viable option for those who want it. Since some have said 20-30 is kind of messed up right now, perhaps you can look forward to a fix. The waiting may suck though, if you have to solo.

    On Besaid I hear of many people partying. May differ by server.
    I'm going to try Toto-Rak for sp tonight.

    Best of luck. <3[/COLOR]
    Remember when we had the surveys? Most people were for the game to drastically change, this is probably one of the things that will change... And in my opinion... for the better!

    Just keep looking, you'll find an awesome group of people to party up with!
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    Yeah. Partying is starting to pick up on my server. It's still slow, but it's getting there in response to the changes. You can't expect it to happen overnight. And it's pretty easy to form a party of 4 people for toto rak (or just a decent trio even, which can get you better skill points than by soloing). Give the game a few weeks/months, and a few more patches, and hopefully people will party even more. Maybe we'll even have a search people like to use.

    As far as your situation, the thing "upsetting" some people I think is that it /is/ viable to level solo, and you're coming off as being upset that you're not xping as fast as someone in a party. I don't think anyone here doesn't want you to be able to solo, but most people here do want party xp to be rewarding. And if soloers go just as fast, no one will form parties. Which would let a good chunk of people down.

    Healing tips have been mentioned. Second wind/blood bath/prime conditioning. I haven't seen anyone mention siphon mp or stygian spikes though. With all this up, my DD rarely runs out of mp/hp unless I'm trying something too far above my level. What to xp on can't really be fed to you since it will change every few levels. There's lots of great internet databases of ff14 mobs though. Find ones that are ~5 or 6 levels up and try that. Adjust as needed if they're too hard/easy.

    Yes, it's slower xp for me when I solo too. But I'm still getting the xp. And as has been said, there really is no need to rush yourself to 50 in a game that's clearly in an unfinished state. By doing so you'll probably be missing out on the chance to play with future instances and stuff in a level appropriate manner. And that'll make you sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    originally it was advertised as a game where you can -choose- to solo or party. Thats why crafting and gathering were main jobs and not support jobs originally and why all the missions can be done as a rank 1 job (by sneaking around, parley, etc). Then the following patches made partying pretty well inefficient. The coblyn system was pure solo. partying was essentially broken then. And the patch after that made leve linking so good for SP that normal parties pre 40 didn't really compare unless you had rly skilled ppl.


    i think this patch was designed to emphasize party play but no one is partying.... which is disappointing.
    Did you not read where they felt the original direction and vision was a mistake for certain things? It's in the recent interviews. (connect on if i recall.)

    So it doesn't matter what it was advertised as, no one was playing it while it was free is a big sign something needs to change and solo oriented MMOs are boring and over saturated the market.
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