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    PvP Gear! the Comeback!

    Devs,


    Any hope we will see a new pvp geared instance or open world pvp server in the future? After all you guys incorporated the morale stat to the game and Frontlines is a pvp instance. Could you honor that stat in some new instance or server?


    I'd like to come back to FFXIV
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    So you can't pvp unless you have stat advantage over people? Am I missing something here? You actually WANT gear grind? >8D
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    If it's an advantage is there for everyone to take. and I also don't see it as a gear grind because pvp is fun.

    Here's what you're missing.. reward and advancement. Victories, strategy, gut and skill should be rewarded in pvp with pvp gear and maybe a ranking system. it's makes players thrive for refinement and perfection. Reaching a level of pvp where gear is not the winning factor but it contributes to pvp gameplay outcome, along with skill and strategy.

    Pvp gear and a possible open world pvp server or area should not be feared or attacked by our pve community. Nonsupporters of morale or openworld pvp simply can simply not set foot in there, simple.
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    They have no plan to let morale get back to The Frontline. Then plan to fix PvP gear, but it won't give you advantage of any kind.
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    They're going to change Morale in a future patch (possibly by replacing it with another stat?), so this thread is kind of redundant at this point.
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    Also unless there is a solid ranking system gear should not affect matches. Already have hard enough time convincing people to try frontlines. Why would you want to alienate more people.

    If wolves den is arena fine have a huge ranking system. Hardcore players should not be able to inflict pain and suffering through gear on others. We do not need level 50 twinks ganking the hell out of new players. That player base belongs in its own content not mixed in with the masses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAMURAl View Post
    If it's an advantage is there for everyone to take.
    Simple solution. Don't put the advantage in-game. And learn-to-play w/o needing to overgear?

    Yh I'm all for pvp everywhere, openworld included. I will immediately server transfer to a dedicated pvp server when Yoshi opens it up. Having come from an ow pvp game ( tera ) I know I'm gonna love it. I still don't understand what positive effect morale will do for pvp tho. You say reward, but wining is the reward. And fun. Not overgearing people so you can stomp them. This outdated "gear up to kill noobs" pvp mentality has to stop, and I already have the feeling SE understand this too. Wolves den --->Failure. Frontlines--->Beaming success. People rather rely on skill to win, and not have to do 348048904 day geargrind just to be on even playing field. Play for fun. Gear =/= fun. I can tell you, from my experiences on other games, equalised pvp seperates the men from the boys.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAMURAl View Post
    Pvp gear ....should not be feared or attacked by our pve community.
    And I ask you ( whatever community you belong to ) to not fear pvping w/o being overgeared so much.
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 08-22-2014 at 02:53 PM.

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    @ Sessurea, Open world pvp is the main thing I'd love to see, be it an area or a server. Morale would be the cherry on top. In my initial post I mentioned "should not be the winning factor in pvp", but rather another stat, let morale be diminished or modified, not so influential. but a stat nonetheless that some of us can achieve as a long term goal. I never used "overgearing" or "stomping"... those are situations all in your head, maybe from the wolves den.

    I also never said "gear up to kill noobs". morale could be just another stat like hp, dex etc. as part of the game during pvp (not in frontlines cuz ppl are already used to it's current from). after all the devs put it in there. I just want a pvp experience where my close victories, time and effort, and skill could unlock a piece of gear that has 1 or 2 extra points of pvp damage or defense than people that have not had as many close victories or skill than me. Never an stomping overgeared advantage as some of you imply.
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    I like the idea of pvp gear. But not to make ppl overgeared or overpowered. But to make players use different builds for pvp. Using dps gladiator or defensive lancer is a good idea, i think. Players will try creepy builds, but hey! It should be fun! Go full crit, full skill speed or anything you want!

    Plus, making that gears pvp only will avoid players to try weird things on pve (like trying big NO-NO builds on bosses).

    I'm OK with pve gear right now.But pvp is lacking some kind of... Individualism (concerning builds)
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