SMN BIS 2.3

[get0_death_wcc]

So I haven't found anything about this so I figured I'd ask here. Have been wondering what is the SMN BIS gear?

[Zamii]

BiS between 2.2 and 2.3 hasn't and wont change, without the introduction of any new i110 pieces none of the BiS lists have changed.
that said, the SMN BiS in particular is a hotly disputed topic, lot of people number crunching to find the best list (myself included) but they are all so close that its near impossible to give an absolute answer to which is the best outright.

[pacifist0rz]

This is arguably the BIS setup: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N9A9

However, the bottom line is it doesn't really matter. I made what is probably considered the "worst in slot" setup (while maintaining ilvl110 and the acc cap): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N9A7. In the simulators the "worst in slot" setup is only a loss of 6.2 DPS (~1.5%)


Edit just for fun, this is the BIS while never stepping foot into SCoB (while maintaining the acc cap): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N9FI. In the simulators this is only a DPS loss of 13.2 (~3.2%)

[get0_death_wcc]

Ok so Basically a crit build would b better was just wondering cuz I wasn't sure if a det build would b better or not I can't really do much testing myself cuz I'm on ps4

[Elkya95]

Okay insert someone beating a dead horse or something, I just didn't wanna make a new thread.
So my alt joined a static as a sch, but it now seems I'll have to be the smn it's i93 and all, but I'm wondering which st pieces to go for, I have the sold pants and belt, rest of the left side is a mix between allagan and myth.

[Judge_Xero]

A nice option I am using on Summoner is after upgrading the Weathered Evenstar Ring of Casting, to just get another Weathered Evenstar Ring.

IMO it's probably better than the High Allagan Ring, although you lose 2 INT, you get 12 Crit (since Spell Speed is essentially worth 0 on Summoner), and it's a good option early on when you are needing that extra accuracy.

[sasdas]

Judgment ring of casting should be better than High Allagan Ring, Has 17 crit and 9 det
http://xivdb.com/?item/8354/Judgment-Ring-of-Casting
As long as you meet the acc req in coil.

[Havenchild]

Judgment ring of casting should be better than High Allagan Ring, Has 17 crit and 9 det
http://xivdb.com/?item/8354/Judgment-Ring-of-Casting
As long as you meet the acc req in coil.

It is. I've long stated there are no full int builds that are best in slot. People on these forums claim they know but do not truly understand Determination for the summoner class. Many would be fast to show you builds that would trade 30+ det for 2 int and 5 crit or other ridiculous setups.

[Riyos]

I have a question, could the novus/book of spades be better than the HA weapon? Yeah i know, 2 Magic damage points, but those 32 spell speed are horrible

[Havenchild]

I have a question, could the novus/book of spades be better than the HA weapon? Yeah i know, 2 Magic damage points, but those 32 spell speed are horrible

The strength if your DoTs are stronger using a max Det novus or a book of spades then using a HA book.

However the overall strength of your spells like Ruins and Fester do "decrease". Reason for quotes is more the window of damage is greater on the lower end. You can still hit as high as the HA book with say a Fester but you can also hit lower more often.