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  1. #11
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    Grey_Cain's Avatar
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    Cara Verant
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    #1: Hunts aren't fair because they're graded as "participant" (where you get 1-2 seals/myth/etc.) or "full reward". The dividing line is harsher than getting gold on Behemoth and Odin and the participant reward is more insulting than getting bronze on either (also that it doesn't count for the weekly rank B kills).

    #2: #1 is where the problem with resets and "early" pulls come from. The extreme difference between reward results pushes people to do whatever they can to get their claim, whether that involves resetting until their party is ready or pulling immediately because the army just appeared over the hills.

    #3: My previous opinion was that hunts were fine because gaining seals would take time trying to find the random spawn locations and the odd-ball triggers. Boy am I eating my words now, with a side order of crow. Even the whole radar fiasco can't keep up with Hunt LSs posting sentries at every known spawn location just waiting because it's not really random, and all of the spawn-triggers can be done by the leftovers that aren't needed to camp.

    Putting a weekly cap on the seals or the number of bloody logs that can be obtained would likely reduce the number of people camping, maybe make it so that the army dissipates and even the leftovers can have a real chance at staking a claim later in the week. In the best case, it would become an "eh, I'm done that for this week already" response, instead of "I'll be right there with 100 of my LS mates to take down that B rank". Of course, in the worst case nobody shows up to help with the S rank that's been sitting out for four hours, so you can't get the reward anyway, but at least you'll know the B ranks will likely be easier to claim for the weekly reward.

    PS: You can get around the 1000 character limit by copying your whole post, deleting it down to under 1000 characters and posting, then clicking edit and pasting the whole post.
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  2. #12
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    Deviant One
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Well, you should start buggin' SE about balancing them with the rest of the game. Then we won't have to keep making these threads.
    Hmm a new day, so here is the new post from the anti-hunt vocal minority...

    Maybe SE should bring the rest of the game up to where the hunts are regarding rewards. Would be nice if people stopped thinking that their 'preferred content' is the only content that matters...

    The reason the hunts trump all is that:
    If your on the animus quest you have to choose 30 full dungeons (now that they broke Bray SR so you cant leave as a premade group) or farm in the hunt for about 3 hours.
    You can do 10 dungeons to cap seals, or 2 hours in the hunt
    One oil with up to 23 other people rolling against you in the tower
    2 oils/sands with up to 7 other people rolling against you from coil, per week.
    Alexandrite: 1 map per day expert roulette, and another per 800 myth at 16 dungeons versus buying straight out with 200 seals, and another 2 or 3 maps for the myth you got.

    I would rather prepay my subscription for a year then have SE feel they need to slow mode everything to milk the fee...

    Bottom line is the most players don't want to do the same dungeon / tower that many times, for such low payout.
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  3. #13
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    It's been long enough with no fix that I think hunts are probably working exactly the way SE wants.
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  4. #14
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    Claire Abigail
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Whine.
    1. Meh...it's good for people who wants to catch up instead of falling behind even more.
    2. Granted some ilvl 90 myth are better than their ilvl 100 sol counterparts (bard pants for example), it's still "old"
    So once again good for catching up the newer players. Or gearing up an alt
    3. Lol yea I'm sure the drop rate if that is high. I bet half the people claiming they got it from a hunt is just trolling. I've been hunting since it came out and only got 3.
    4. Once again...it's OLD. It's great source of myth if you wanna do your animus books. I got my animus before the hunts and I'm not complaining.
    5. Finders keepers. If you found it and no one is there it's yours. You decide if you wanna share it or just keep it within your party I honestly don't care.
    6. A hunt doesn't belong to the "server" it belongs to the party that found it. If you didnt find it, why are you complaining? If you were just sitting somewhere or crafting instead of looking, why are you whining? It's not like you put any effort into it. (By you I'm generalizing I don't actually mean "you")

    And to be honest it's not the ones doing the hunts are the ones being toxic, for the most part it's the one who thinks they are entitled to a hunt mob and cries if they don't get it. And yea I'm sure myth gears stopped people from doing coil right?
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    Last edited by ClaireAbigail; 08-10-2014 at 03:13 AM.

  5. #15
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    if u edit your post u wont have any limit :P
    @_@.. Thank you very much.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  6. #16
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Despite there being a lot of threads about hunts, I still wanted to finally at least try to discuss them after experiencing it all over a full 3 weeks. :x

    And we shouldn't complain about how much threads there are because it only proves our dissatisfaction as a whole with this feature in the game.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  7. #17
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    Despite there being a lot of threads about hunts, I still wanted to finally at least try to discuss them after experiencing it all over a full 3 weeks. :x

    And we shouldn't complain about how much threads there are because it only proves our dissatisfaction as a whole with this feature in the game.
    Not really. If they see a lot of threads on a single topic, they just merge them and give a small comment (typically just that they merged them, and that there shouldn't be multiple threads with the same topic). If they see a single thread that has gotten large, they will reply multiple times, with longer replies.
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  8. #18
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    See post #10
    First of very well said Hayk. Now I have to say what me and a few others I know think. Hunts have broken the game to the point that logging in or staying on very long has become hard. It's even harder now to get in a dungeon at any level now because everyone is spamming hunts. This is not good news for SE, the more people that stop logging in the easier it is for them to just quit the game as it no longer holds their interest. When I and a few of my friends seen hunts being introduced we were excited until we seen how they were designed. We thought it would be more of a weekly/daily thing and not the cluster it is now, they would have been so much better off with weekly/daily hunts and not doing the free roaming, basically, notorious monsters.
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  9. #19
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    Pep Per
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    My 2 cents on Hunts:
    1) PS3 Limitations- Large number of characters and PS3s do NOT get along.
    -- a) you have to be in a party.
    -- b) you have to hope you zone-in in time.
    -- c) you have to hope you get there in time.
    -- d) when you cannot see the target, which is most of the time, you have
    to hope you can somehow gain enough aggro and that your party
    can not only see the target but also was able to do enough damage.
    -- e) 1 seal...... your reward if any of the above is off.


    2) Cause and effect- Hunts have effectively killed most other content.
    -- a) statics run with statics for most content. puggers run with puggers for most content.
    -- b) if you cannot be in a static then you must be a pugger. which means you must be doing
    content other puggers are doing otherwise you sit and wait hours for people to even join you.
    let alone beat it.....
    -- c) if [see 1] has put you off of Hunts altogether, good luck finding puggers to run things with.
    -- d) brand new content completely ignored because of effort/reward imbalance.
    -- e) boredom. The End~
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    Last edited by joshsecret; 08-10-2014 at 01:08 PM.

  10. #20
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    The problem with the hunting content isn't the fact people can get 110 gear easily. Rather, the problem is that there are so many people rushing the hunts that it's very difficult to manage to get a decent number of seals at peak hours. I've found myself scheduling time before work in the morning just to be able to get to A rank and S rank marks. In the evening hours on a weekend the hunts are so crowded that people pull early out of fear of losing their reward, and then the crowd comes in and nukes it to the ground within seconds.

    Beyond this, doing hunts is still far better then repeatedly running Primal EX and bahamut coil.
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