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    Treespeak Botany Leves Impossible / Super Hard-Nearly-Impossible

    Loving the gathering changes made, and happy the direction it is going in.

    However, since the update it is now almost impossible to complete the two Botany leves at Treespeak. The one that requires you to find three logging spots always seems to send you smack in the middle of the swarm of Wild Hogs in the bottom right corner. I tried and tried many times to run them out the way, return then run back, only to find they had moved back in front of the tree again.

    The clock ran down to 0, and I failed the leve. All gear (including my tool) were 0% condition by the time I was done.

    Then I proceeded to the next leve, where I had to find three of one item, and the first tree was right in the middle of a horde of Ixali just to the right of Haughtpox's Western spawn point. There was an absolute swarm of Ixali there; I counted nine, and couldn't proceed past their (rather awesome looking) blimp to see how many more there were.

    The tree was beyond them, in a little cul-de-sac, with no path beyond to run the Ixali out the way. Aggroing them and double backing did not work either, as they just walked back to where they were, in the way again.

    It took nearly 15 minutes of constantly trying to time to run past until I eventually managed to get to this tree and log it in peace.

    Whilst I appreciate an element of danger is needed on the very rewarding leves, I feel this isn't overly fair to Botanists. If Botany is my main, how am I supposed to kill these to get them out of my way? How would a party of Botanists manage it, even? We can't stone them to death, pretty sure we'd die first...

    Having monsters in the middle of levequest targets is fine dandy for DoW & DoM, but make the levequests ridiculously frustrating and time consuming (and in the case of the first, impossible) for gatherers. I am not a Miner so I can't comment on their leves, but reading these forums it is obviously a problem for them as well!
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    I have just failed Smiting the Blight for the fourth time in as many resets. It is completely and utterly impossible to reach the tree by the Hogs, which the leve always seems to choose as a location. I appreciate adding an element of danger is necessary with improved rewards, but there is a difference between making something harder and making it impossible.

    This is impossible, you simply can not complete this levequest. Please, fix this! And soon!
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    Have you tried using the beastkin eluder skill that a level 30 miner has? Maybe someone who's had luck with the eluder skills can speak up.
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    no not possible winterclaw as that ability only works on one mob at a time and there are about 7-8 hogs around the point. Tried this myself until i remembered that little issue
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    It's a nice idea, Winterclaw, however my Miner is only 10 and it seems a little unreasonable of them to expect Botanists to level Miner to 30 just to gather from this one cruedly calculated node. Given the favourable direction of this patch for gathering, I believe this was not their intention whatsoever.

    And also, unfortunately, there is no ability that will allow you to elude the swarms of Ixali at the other leve's node.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruantien
    no not possible Winterclaw as that ability only works on one mob at a time and there are about 7-8 hogs around the point. Tried this myself until i remembered that little issue
    Sigh


    Sometimes I really wonder about this game. What's the point of having an evade ability if it doesn't really allow you to sneak around things?


    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    however my Miner is only 10 and it seems a little unreasonable of them to expect Botanists to level Miner to 30 just to gather from this one crudely calculated node.
    Selene, I see your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
    Sigh


    Sometimes I really wonder about this game. What's the point of having an evade ability if it doesn't really allow you to sneak around things?
    well it used to be semi useful since you didnt often need to pass more than 1 at a time, but since with this patch all the new mob locations are swarms, it makes it pointless. However we are to believe DoL are going to get a stealth ability so perhaps they dont plan on changing the mob locations but give us an ability to cope with them other than the now useless eluder abilities
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    I have just failed this for the fifth time. I really do hope this is being address in today's maintenance. It is not right that I have missed out on nearly 30k SP and the rewards for the leve because of one slight oversight.
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    Dev post today that this will be fixed soon! Don't think it's coming tonite tho, prolly the next update.
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    Yes, this is very rediculous now. I have to go out on my Rank 50 Conjurer to provide cover for my wife while she does her Botany leves around Treespeak. Come on SE? WTF!!!
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