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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    This is what he does. He immediately went to say "Seems that's all you pro parsing people can ever resort to." which falls into the "You guys never get what I say anyway" type of stuff he always bring sup when you corner him with a good argument.



    That's not always the problem though. For example, when you're tackling turn 8 or 9 everyone in your party may look to be doing pretty well based on your hate meters. The tanks outstripping everyone nicely so they are holding hate fine, and everyone in the party is right in line with one another (exceptions going to hate reduction moves), but in the end you just aren't even coming close to the DPS check of the fight. The team sits stumped. Wondering "Why can't we beat this? Everyone's hate meters seem to be properly in line!" but once a parser gets thrown at the battle it becomes clear. Everyone in the group is equally below the thresholds required to win the battle. Everyone needs to step it up because no one is succeeding.

    See the entire "threat meter" argument assumes that if you are all equal then you're all doing alright, but that's a flaw. It only works when at least 1 person is absolutely killing damage so that everyone else has a baseline amount of threat to strive for. When you all fail the entire system falls completely apart. It is a flawed method. Perfectly fine for low end content, but completely useless for end game content.
    Think you missed my point completely.

    I don't need a parser to figure out an ideal rotation. To test it sure it is helpful, but I'm confident enough in myself (and my team) to be able to figure it out with just the combat log and theory. We have also never hit a dps check in our progression in this entire game. I don't even know what the enrages look like on turn 6-9. Do turn 6 and 7 even have hard enrages?

    Now when we pug someone for some primal or ST or something, this is when we can easily judge based on abiltiies cast/threat/ect

    It's really not that hard to tell when someone is terrible.

    Someone doing 5% worse may be impossible to tell.... But people do far far worse than you could imagine. I have always called people out when it annoys me enough, and I have not needed, will never need a parser to do so.

    Anything someone can do with a 3rd party parser, a person can do with a calculator and a pad of paper and the combat log. It just takes more time/effort.

    This whole argument is just bad players hating on other bad player for using tools they are too lazy to use. Its funny.
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    Last edited by Staris; 08-13-2014 at 03:46 AM.