Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
The log doesn't include all the information needed for all classes (can be used for some). Also the popular parser, because it does what it needs to do to get that extra information, reads from memory, which is against the ToS - which is also why that popular app can also make a radar.. because it reads from memory.
No the log files don't normally. And they didn't in both EQ games either, but its what we used to get an 'idea'. That's sort of the point of parsing, to get an idea of what you are doing. Then you can improve on it and then see if what you did differently actually improved it. If you read my post where I posted my simple notepad manual parse of the damage done during a few seconds of fighting in Haukke Manor, you will notice a monster cast Stone, but you saw it do no damage. This is because it was out of range for the log file to track.

That happened in both EQ's the parser wouldn't be able to accurately track party members without some settings changed and everyone being closer together. I'd imagine the same thing works here. Of course this is assuming a parser isn't doing those 'other' things as I've said. And that's been the point of my argument in this thread. Not every parser is covered under the TOS ban. The parser for EQ2 that I mentioned actually has a plugin for FFXIV (just looked it up as of writing this). It ONLY parses log files and doesn't check memory or data streams. Which means it can parse when you're not even in game.

So the parsers I'm speaking about do not do those nefarious things that other's have been referencing.

Quote Originally Posted by Kayo View Post
Youre not the only one whose played end game content with and without parsers, theyre used to gloat, and theyre used to bully people... and the rare opportunities either of you allegedly have had with your collective group of friends to defeat a handful of bosses is FAR from worth the headaches it brings with it for everyone else whose not running raids with friends.
To be honest, your post is alot more abusive than any post or response from someone using a parser that I've seen in the 15 years I've been playing MMOs. How about you settle down and let friends within their circles play the game the way they want to? They aren't in your raids, your groups, or in your FC. They aren't hurting you. Live and let live. Parsers didn't suddenly make people be mean to you, they were that way long before there were parsers.