SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Shougun]

I was not against parsers because they didn't affect me personally - until if I'm reading this right: parser users consist of the radar app users because it's all in the ONE app? Is this correct?

For the one that was posted on the forums, it is the same app(lication) but to my knowledge from its reddit page is in pieces you can choose to have or not. (Hence Taruranto's plugins response, though technically it is all in one app still). I would imagine the radar posted on the forums is not the only one though.

Reading for SE's txt log doesnt include all the information you need, the game memory can- but allowing one reading of game information means radar is also available. Banning and /actively/ enforcing no third party applications and having official gui mods would really help this situation.. lol

[PrimeEvilPanda]

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:/ DPS parser app didn't affect me because it stayed within the confines of the raiding groups - sort of like my lawn; they didn't trespass into it [my casual play], so I kinda had no reason to go off at them [with a shotgun]. If I ever raided with a proper raid group, I KNEW this would be the requirement by some groups so it was my own fault for complaining if I didn't like their set-up.

With the stupid radar app being used in Hunts, it affects the WHOLE community because the Hunt is affecting all aspects of the game. I can't condone the use of one app without disagreeing with the other.

Legit DPS parsers built-in this game is something I wouldn't mind, if only because I'm old school and I've had them in other games, so I essentially Have NOT seen them negatively used (if anything, teleport hacks/bots were the bigger uproar for me and my friends in past MMO's).

[Tashigi]

With the stupid radar app being used in Hunts, it affects the WHOLE community because the Hunt is affecting all aspects of the game.

I'm sorry, but the problem with Hunts isn't Radar.
The problem with Hunts, it's Hunts. They're poorly implemented and should have never, ever made it past any decent level of QA.

[PrimeEvilPanda]

I'm sorry, but the problem with Hunts isn't Radar.
The problem with Hunts, it's Hunts. They're poorly implemented and should have never, ever made it past any decent level of QA.

I was in general speaking about apps and their effect on the community (I did a poor job of it, sorry). In noting, how before, with dps parsers: YES, it was a hot debate in the forums - but within the game (at least in our server), it was kept to the confines of the raid community. Whereas with the radar app used in the Hunt, it had a negative effect on the entire community because it involved casual and hardcore players. I've seen more vitriol slung at people over radar apps than I had dps parsers.

In saying that, that is why I said I should not condone one and bag the other [app] because in essence they both evolve from within the same(?) program.

[Tashigi]

Whereas with the radar app used in the Hunt, it had a negative effect on the entire community because it involved casual and hardcore players. I've seen more vitriol slung at people over radar apps than I had dps parsers.

This was not the program's fault, though.
The playerbase has been greatly misinformed about these plugins, particularly the Radar plugin, which is actually quite limited. So limited, that it's a lot better/easier to look for Hunt targets the old fashion way; by panning your camera.
You should look it up and read about it's functions and limits and you'll understand, too.
Why the playerbase has exaggerated and blown these things out of proportion, well, I can't answer that without laughing. It's just silly how many of these threads we seem to get a day/week.