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    Elven's Avatar
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    Arwyn Elven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post

    Of course, you should not use a third-party parser. It's against the TOS.
    You know what annoys me more? It's my unfair view of summoners and how I think they have the lowest dps and that they're entirely situational. I main a Bard and they can literally do everything it comes with a high cost and that is they're instant hate magnets no tank can touch. But I've come to accept that about my chosen class but back to smn imagine if I was a parser user with that mindset you can see now why I personally don't like them.
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    Project Ziek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
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    You're clearly playing summoner wrong then or don't understand how Summoners work, because Summoners can easily put out the most DPS in most situations, although its really close between Monk and Summoner, with Dragoon not too far behind. Only time Monks would deal more DPS than Summoners are in fights where the boss is a striking dummy (see turn 8), other than that, they're tied with Dragoons in situations where they constantly lose their stacks. If you're using the enmity bar to judge DPS, please keep in mind, around a 1/3 of a Summoner's enmity is coming from their pet. Also, Bards do the least amount of DPS. Burst DPS wise, they may be up there, but as a fight progresses and a Monk and Dragoon finishes their rotation, Bard falls to last on the DPS chart (this is assuming the party consists of people who are equally geared and equally skilled).
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    Last edited by Danbo05; 08-09-2014 at 03:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    You're clearly playing summoner wrong then or don't understand how Summoners work, because Summoners can easily put out the most DPS in most situations, although its really close between Monk and Summoner, with Dragoon not too far behind. Only time Monks would deal more DPS than Summoners are in fights where the boss is a striking dummy (see turn 8), other than that, they're tied with Dragoons in situations where they constantly lose their stacks. If you're using the enmity bar to judge DPS, please keep in mind, around a 1/3 of a Summoner's enmity is coming from their pet. Also, Bards do the least amount of DPS. Burst DPS wise, they may be up there, but as a fight progresses and a Monk and Dragoon finishes their rotation, Bard falls to last on the DPS chart (this is assuming the party consists of people who are equally geared and equally skilled).
    You clearly missed the point of the post
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    King Stefan
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    You need parsers for a game that requires any sort of tight dps check.
    Because you need data.
    Because you need to maximize dps.
    GW2 for example, did not need a parser.
    This game does.

    K.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    "Requires", no less ?!
    You realize a lot of people manage to play without using a parser, right ?
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    "Requires", no less ?!
    You realize a lot of people manage to play without using a parser, right ?
    Yeah, and you realize that a lot of people (like yourself) don't do endgame raiding that has DPS checks too, right? If the game didn't have strict DPS checks people wouldn't use a parser, but it does, you just don't know about them.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    Yeah, and you realize that a lot of people (like yourself) don't do endgame raiding that has DPS checks too, right? If the game didn't have strict DPS checks people wouldn't use a parser, but it does, you just don't know about them.
    You mean like everyone claimed that Turn 4 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    Or that Turn 5 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    Or maybe that Titan HM was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?

    Sorry for not being elite enough for you, but when you'll be banned promoting parser that much, I'll still be able to do endgame raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You mean like everyone claimed that Turn 4 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    Or that Turn 5 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    Or maybe that Titan HM was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?

    Sorry for not being elite enough for you, but when you'll be banned promoting parser that much, I'll still be able to do endgame raiding.
    Back when they were relevant and on the bleeding edge of content yes, they were very strict DPS checks that were solved by analysing what changes needed to be made.
    Please, don't act as if now that they're easy they always have been. Posts like this prove you people are so far from knowing what you're talking about you shouldn't be given an opinion.

    Also, you don't end game raid. Running Soldiery dungeons is not end game raiding.
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    Last edited by saeedaisspecial; 08-11-2014 at 01:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    Back when they were relevant and on the bleeding edge of content yes, they were very strict DPS checks that were solved by analysing what changes needed to be made.
    Please, don't act as if now that they're easy they always have been. Posts like this prove you people are so far from knowing what you're talking about you shouldn't be given an opinion.

    Also, you don't end game raid. Running Soldiery dungeons is not end game raiding.
    Because you clearly know when I've done all this...

    After all, I don't care...cheat all you want, justify it however you want, continue to look down on people that aren't elitist enough for you.
    I'm doing all I can to not play with people like you, thus I can still enjoy the game how I want.

    By the way, do you realize, that you promote something that was clearly forbidden by Square-Enix and then looking down on people that chose to play the game legit by NOT doing this ? With everything you said, either you directly use a parser and don't care about the risk of being banned (Since your character and server are clearly named on the forum), or you play legit and then, you should follow your own advice to not give an opinion about something you don't actually do.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 08-11-2014 at 02:34 AM.

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    Au Ra
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You mean like everyone claimed that Turn 4 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    Or that Turn 5 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    Or maybe that Titan HM was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
    As content gets older it gets easier thanks to nerfs/echo/higher gear. The same will happen (and has already somewhat) with current content and future content. Turn 8 was at 2.3s launch a strict DPS check, and for those are entering the Turn for the first time, probably still is depending how much gear they have gotten from ST and Hunts, but for those groups who are now very experienced in the turn and have around full 110 should be killing T8 out a good few minutes before his enrage hits.

    In other news.

    Parsers are handy tools and if used, should be used as such, if they are being used for harassing other players, then the player should be reported for harassment, not for using a parser.
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