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  1. #121
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    Parodine's Avatar
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    If people want to run parsers, it doesn't bother me. I've never run one between FFXI and now though. I don't think it gives them an advantage really, and Yoshi sees where they're coming from...but it is against the ToS. So don't get caught guys. Don't mouth off about it chat, don't say you use it, nothing.

    Hunt radar - on the other hand - I hope every one of those people get banned. That is terrible, truly.
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  2. #122
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    So you'd rather a game where people don't help anyone except the raider elite and everyone else gets frustrated, quits and the game dies out due to limited consumers? Sorry if I disagree with you and think HELPING people rather then kicking them is the better option.
    What about those who turn abusive or just totally ignore any friendly advice given? What about those who cause wipes by failing on the same thing every single time refusing to take advice and just blame others, even when it is obvious that it was their fault. Two sides to every thing. Of course there are people open for advice, then theirs the others.
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  3. #123
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    Deviant One
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    Now, how is anyone going to improve if people are going to use parsers to keep them OUT of content rather than using them to help improve them FOR it?
    Well there are the level 50 training dummies in Whitebrim, west of camp Dragonhead.
    Practice your rotation until the mob dies the fastest. Basically you keep practicing it until it becomes muscle memory.

    You can tell when you fully memorized the rotation based on how quickly the dummy dies, no parser needed (although I am sure it would help). This helps you not only on pressing the buttons in the right order, but responding to any job procs (straighter shot for brds or thundercloud for blms, etc.)

    It will show your DOT damage as well as direct damage if you set the ui to show damage on screen, so you can eyeball the numbers to get an idea for gear sets and etc..



    Now I understand that some players want to be casual about their gameplay and not put in the effort required to practice like this, which brings me to one question for you:

    Why should anyone want you in the party if you cannot make any effort to bring the damage?
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  4. #124
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    Elven's Avatar
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    Arwyn Elven
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post

    Of course, you should not use a third-party parser. It's against the TOS.
    You know what annoys me more? It's my unfair view of summoners and how I think they have the lowest dps and that they're entirely situational. I main a Bard and they can literally do everything it comes with a high cost and that is they're instant hate magnets no tank can touch. But I've come to accept that about my chosen class but back to smn imagine if I was a parser user with that mindset you can see now why I personally don't like them.
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  5. #125
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
    -snip-
    You're clearly playing summoner wrong then or don't understand how Summoners work, because Summoners can easily put out the most DPS in most situations, although its really close between Monk and Summoner, with Dragoon not too far behind. Only time Monks would deal more DPS than Summoners are in fights where the boss is a striking dummy (see turn 8), other than that, they're tied with Dragoons in situations where they constantly lose their stacks. If you're using the enmity bar to judge DPS, please keep in mind, around a 1/3 of a Summoner's enmity is coming from their pet. Also, Bards do the least amount of DPS. Burst DPS wise, they may be up there, but as a fight progresses and a Monk and Dragoon finishes their rotation, Bard falls to last on the DPS chart (this is assuming the party consists of people who are equally geared and equally skilled).
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    Last edited by Danbo05; 08-09-2014 at 03:18 PM.

  6. #126
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    Amberyl's Avatar
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    Mizuki Ishikawa
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    Belias
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
    That was a general statement and yes there is; can be found in many other games. Skyrim comes to mind almost instantly.
    Unless we're mixing the term up.
    FFXIV is an MMO, not a single player RPG with a huge, developer-approved toolset and resource release. You're confusing your entitlements. Just because the PC isn't a walled garden like the PS3/4, doesn't mean you have the right to mess with anything you fancy changing.
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  7. #127
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    Mizuki Ishikawa
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    Belias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardthorne View Post
    Parsing is a basic function that's existed and been required at high level play since this genre has existed. If it isn't intended then it's broken and users will fix it like they always have.
    There is no 'fixing' a design brief that you're not privy to. Unless you're sat around the table, helping to decide what goes in and what doesn't, you have no place attempting to infer truth in either direction. Until the UI SDK is released with an appropriate EULA to govern how it is used, no player has the right to alter someone else's hard work. To do so, to add features you personally consider a 'requirement,' smacks of little more than a serious dose of self-entitlement and way too much ego. If the team decides not to add a feature, and that's game breaking to you, go and write your own MMO.
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  8. #128
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    Amberyl's Avatar
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    Mizuki Ishikawa
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    Belias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    It's similar to how, say, PSO2 says "No American players" in their TOS, but you can relatively freely and safely play in American server communities and pretty freely speak English as long as you aren't disrupting or abusive to the JP players. It's a quick corporate way to remove troublesome folks with minimal due process.
    Not true at all. The only reason they don't enforce the ban as strictly now, is because PSO2 is a FTP game and the majority of western players connect via VPN, so can't be easily ip blocked. It was heavily enforced during earlier stages of the game, when the western portal was still on the cards, and the out-of-TOS population was smaller. It's also the reason you can't buy Arks Cash with western credit cards.

    Not a relevant comparison at all.
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  9. #129
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    Arwyn Elven
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    You're clearly playing summoner wrong then or don't understand how Summoners work, because Summoners can easily put out the most DPS in most situations, although its really close between Monk and Summoner, with Dragoon not too far behind. Only time Monks would deal more DPS than Summoners are in fights where the boss is a striking dummy (see turn 8), other than that, they're tied with Dragoons in situations where they constantly lose their stacks. If you're using the enmity bar to judge DPS, please keep in mind, around a 1/3 of a Summoner's enmity is coming from their pet. Also, Bards do the least amount of DPS. Burst DPS wise, they may be up there, but as a fight progresses and a Monk and Dragoon finishes their rotation, Bard falls to last on the DPS chart (this is assuming the party consists of people who are equally geared and equally skilled).
    You clearly missed the point of the post
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  10. #130
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    Mizuki Ishikawa
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    Belias
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    (PS. Only an American could say something as conceited as 'No American players.' The TOS states no gaijin. There are more countries in the world outside of Japan than just America.)

    "Connecting to the game server through the installed software is restricted to domestically located computer terminals. It's prohibited to directly connect to the server from outside Japan as well as to route a connection from outside the country through domestic computer terminals."
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