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    ispano's Avatar
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    Oct 2011
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    So you'd rather a game where people don't help anyone except the raider elite and everyone else gets frustrated, quits and the game dies out due to limited consumers? Sorry if I disagree with you and think HELPING people rather then kicking them is the better option.
    So you'd sit and wipe, over and over, with someone who refuses to improve? Or in a group where the DPS isn't up to par but you don't know WHICH one it is? And if you happen to say anything at all about the DPS being too low, not even to one specific person, you get your head chewed off?

    Also, please tell me what you plan to do when addons get implemented and someone builds a parser with that system. And before you say SE won't allow, it, they've already said addons will have access to damage data and other such information that's exposed to the client.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    Ok SE pays people to help(carry) people through content. Last time i checked when i get Aurum Vale on low level roulette for some new players SE pays me in myth and stuff to help/(carry) them. So we are all agreed?

    Two parsers are probably not the definition of cheating. But anything that allows you to grief or question other players abilities, is probably never going to see the light of day. Fight club rules aside people can't keep there mouth shut. A wipe on Ifrit HM and the tank starts spewing numbers. "no ones above 16" " What the hell are you all doing, I am above half of you." Was the group bad yes. No amount of healing or tanking is going to carry a group that can't get nails down. But using a TOOL to belittle other players is wrong. It only takes a few to not keep their mouth shut.

    I also bet if SE could have the warden program running they would. They have enough issues without adding more. Warden wasn't added till after anyways. So it may still be in thew works.
    First, read my reply above. Second, I've played games that have addon support and DPS meters and the such right in the client. I play games heavily, it's just what I enjoy doing. And, yes, some people do get harassed over it, but it's also not the norm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    So you'd rather a game where people don't help anyone except the raider elite and everyone else gets frustrated, quits and the game dies out due to limited consumers? Sorry if I disagree with you and think HELPING people rather then kicking them is the better option.
    If someone in your group is holding the group back, and refuses to step up and do better, you're not helping them by sitting there and wiping with them and not removing them. They refuse to learn, they need to understand they are then not welcome. If you can't accept that, then you may very well be HURTING some groups.
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    Last edited by ispano; 08-09-2014 at 12:25 PM.