SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Doki]

I never used any mods in FFXI and I had every job at 99, cleared pretty much all content and never had any issues. I've never used any mods in FFXIV, have everything at level 50 with good gear, and I've cleared everything except T9. All the Quality of Life mods are BS. IMHO mods are a crutch for people that can't handle difficult content, or to stroke their own e-peen and make others feel bad.

On the bright side, at least we haven't experienced Phantasy Star Online/Universe levels of hacks yet.

[Assirra]

I look at other games and see not nearly the abuse that people are speak of.
Seriously, where do you people find this stuff?

[Valoiz]

So.. ppl figthing bout radar and not bout the broken system of hunts... if radar its popular/neeed it by some ppl its cuz hunts are a broken sys....

-Hunts can make u ilv 100+ without run anything else, making u a REALLY well geared noob
-Hunts make us kill stuff we can`t even see cuz the game limitations.... i am sure the hunts system inself its hurting the game servers more than any 3rd party solfware ever does.... i have never see an S grade so far but have kill several..... also my GF cant se anything on her PS3
- I have played serveral MMO since L2 / WoW and some adds can be truely beneficials and helpfull... also SE its incapable of dealing with RMT... more les with radar users / DPS checkers users

[Appleh4x]

we will agree to disagree...simply because you only see the usefulness of the tool, which I said is not that useful as we have everything in-game to do that, even if not perfect, and you refuse to see the abuse of the tool which by far overcome the usefulness simply because that tool in the hands of game-addicts, end-content addicts,e-peen complex affected and the like, is not used as it should.....and why is forbidden on top of using info that shouldnt be of public use (so to speak). Aslo, who gives you the right to point fingers towards someone that may not want everyone to know he has that poor of a DPS or maybe he knows it without your intervention ? see? you arrogate yoruself a right that is not yours to have, unless asked for it. The use of parsers infringe the privacy rights that everybody is entitled to and when you need to go and dig info outside of what you see on teh screen you do infringe that limit....(i exagerate a little but yeah is not that far of I think)

I am glad for one that such use will be sanctioned...people that want to use it by all means do it but if you are caught well dont complain ...

Mei

I don't understand most of this paragraph but I can agree with the first sentence.

[Exstal]

All the Quality of Life mods are BS. IMHO mods are a crutch for people that can't handle difficult content, or to stroke their own e-peen and make others feel bad.

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[Elven]

The issue is that you have a totally misguided view on parsers. My static group has never kicked anyone for low DPS, we work with each other to figure out how to maximize damage all around and beat the checks. The parser just gives data on potential problems and so that we players can correct them.

I was wondering all day about parsing different bosses and how each may take damage differently. It's as good as a shortcut which is basically cheating. But if parsers are not used that way to systematically Vito the whole experience then disregard this post.

[Appleh4x]

I was wondering all day about parsing different bosses and how each may take damage differently. It's as good as a shortcut which is basically cheating. But if parsers are not used that way to systematically Vito the whole experience then disregard this post.

I have no clue what you're talking about in regards to "take damage differently." Parsing isn't a shortcut or cheating, it's like looking at an excel sheet that shows how much damage you did

[Elven]

I have no clue what you're talking about in regards to "take damage differently." Parsing isn't a shortcut or cheating, it's like looking at an excel sheet that shows how much damage you did

Well then the question is once you learned maximum output by using a parser and get your rotations down why would you need to keep using it on the next boss and so on if it didn't give you any extra advantage with damage calculations?

[Tiggy]

we will agree to disagree...simply because you only see the usefulness of the tool, which I said is not that useful as we have everything in-game to do that, even if not perfect, and you refuse to see the abuse of the tool which by far overcome the usefulness simply because that tool in the hands of game-addicts, end-content addicts,e-peen complex affected and the like, is not used as it should.....and why is forbidden on top of using info that shouldnt be of public use (so to speak). Aslo, who gives you the right to point fingers towards someone that may not want everyone to know he has that poor of a DPS or maybe he knows it without your intervention ? see? you arrogate yoruself a right that is not yours to have, unless asked for it. The use of parsers infringe the privacy rights that everybody is entitled to and when you need to go and dig info outside of what you see on teh screen you do infringe that limit....(i exagerate a little but yeah is not that far of I think)

I am glad for one that such use will be sanctioned...people that want to use it by all means do it but if you are caught well dont complain ...

Mei

In the same vein you seem to only see the negatives. I wonder how many people do you know that use parsers and you have no idea. They've never once gloated, desparaged, or done anything with that knowledge other than self improvement. Then you come here and talk about all the negatives while not having any idea how many people aren't affecting you despite using those tools.

You're making broad assumptions. You're glass is half full and contains only negatives. Then you seem to think that if people do it its ok unless they get caught which treats ps3/ps4 users like second class citizens since they don't have access to such tools.

TLDR. Acting like only bad things come of these tools is just as ignorant as thinking nothing but bad comes from them. The reality is somewhere in between.

Well then the question is once you learned maximum output by using a parser and get your rotations down why would you need to keep using it on the next boss and so on if it didn't give you any extra advantage with damage calculations?

Because it does add extra advantages. Dummies are static with no movement or damage you must avoid so in the end you only learn what your maximum potential is. They don't include phases where the monster jumps around the map making him impossible to hit for a time. Knowing how well you've applied your maximum potential against any given fight is an entirely different matter and that's where parsers are helpful. Feeling like you did well and knowing you did well on a certain phase are 2 very different things. I can feel like I did a good job but then when I see the numbers I realize I did terrible and there is a lot of room to improve.

[Appleh4x]

Well then the question is once you learned maximum output by using a parser and get your rotations down why would you need to keep using it on the next boss and so on if it didn't give you any extra advantage with damage calculations?

Because each fight is different, has diff acc caps, diff mechanics and your rotations will not always be the same. On T9 there is a lot of parts you lose stacks as a monk, have to move your pet as smn, and know when the best times to use buffs are to pass the DPS checks like the Ghosts