SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Umichi]

People used parsers in 11? I've never experienced that. Maybe it's because the playerbase was a lot better at MMOs than these 5 year olds today that cry this game is so hard.

yes they sure did. although it was mostly the more advanced players who used them. or the elite who were far above the curve of the game than the average person. Also talking about parsing was a down low thing on XI... it was usually only talked about around people who didn't mind it or used it themselves. It also was usually conversed in tight nit groups who wanted to share data to improve their playing.

[Sadana]

I think it just boils down to 'mods/add ons/cheats/etc can possibly give an advantage to those on a pc, but cannot be used by console gamers, therefore they are not allowed in this game'.

[Deviant1]

I think it just boils down to 'mods/add ons/cheats/etc can possibly give an advantage to those on a pc, but cannot be used by console gamers, therefore they are not allowed in this game'.

Ok, then maybe they should drop the console player or make them have their own servers. I don't care what excuse or lie a console system player wants to use, there is no reason to limit a game to such a low end system in today's market.

The dust bunnies in my tower have more processing power then a ps4...

[raelgun]

Ok, then maybe they should drop the console player or make them have their own servers. I don't care what excuse or lie a console system player wants to use, there is no reason to limit a game to such a low end system in today's market.

The dust bunnies in my tower have more processing power then a ps4...

And the sad thing is with this, its been confirmed that we cant get more QOL on the default UI due to the game already maxed on the memory for the PS3, so basically, we have to deal with a sub par UI due to the PS3 or even more customisation to it.

[kidvideo]

most difinitive statement yet on parsers

You mean besides all of the other statements & this quite clear sentence in the User Agreement "2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software." ?

Finally some clarity!

[BreathlessTao]

I'm just so tired of this whole issue... good/bad, allowed/prohibited, should/shouldn't... Like, seriously - do the devs supply the means and give permission to make mods of any kind? If yes: great, go ahead. If not: just don't do it. I don't know why it has to be such a freakin' powder keg.
And, y'know, personally I really wouldn't care less if someone uses parsers specifically - when with their own little static group. Outside, they shouldn't even be running, let alone be utilised to mistreat people with. Same thing as going into the totally random DF and expecting everyone in there to know everything of any given fight. It doesn't make sense.
Not everyone plays the same way. Get over it.

[Bixby]

I apologize if someone else has posted this info. I looked and couldn't find a thread on today's statement. Note that this time they specifically mentioned parsers by name (in the past they have typically stated, in response to questions on whether parsers are ok, that 3rd party programs that affect game play are not permitted, making it pretty clear they were referring to parsers but some have argued otherwise). Even more significant, they made this statement in a posting on banning actions taken against players for TOS violations.

For a little context, in order for them to change the boilerplate text for these announcements, they'd most likely be getting a lot more reports about some given thing, or dealing with something a lot more than they used to.

I doubt there's been a sharp increase in "parser" violations as most people talk about them (i.e., DPS meters). But there has most likely been a sharp increase in violations from hunts, i.e. Radar, a 3rd party tool that parses game data.

Yes, DPS meters are a violation of the user agreement. I wouldn't take this statement as being specifically directed at DPS meters, though. It's still Fight Club.

[Elven]

Lets say you did use the parser on your own static group or practicing FC members to get better no problem right? Even Yoshi eluded to this point. But that isn't where it ends now is it there in lies the problem people use it for malicious intent outside the helpful hand it gives to honest players and into players that use it on unsuspecting players unaware these parsers are running. SE helped out by changing mob health to percentages and still people are unhappy. So sadly it's the few that ruin it for the many or though cynicism in me tends to believe it's the many that ruin it for the few.

[Roris]

Radar use could have been prevented if they kept yet another 1.0 feature they threw out that let you see mob dots on the mini map, including special icons for NMs, console limitations are a silly excuse for their removal because even XI lets you see them with both Wide Scan and the compass. DPS parsers just let you see numbers and are just e-peen in the end, they mentioned plans for integrating a DPS meter into dummies but like a lot of things it was just thrown out as a vague idea without any concrete info on when it'll be implemented.

Official mods might also add them alongside other features parsers include but mods were promised more than 2 years ago, since then they've just given excuses for their delay, PS3 release, addressing launch server issues, PS4 release, Chinese version release, etc.

[Barimu]

even XI l

I don't think Yoshi-P has ever played anything other than WoW and GW2 because he praises them both as the greatest mmos he has ever played, but if he played 11 then he'd realize 11 was better than both of them