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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    It won't happen. Stop asking for AA toggle. The perfect game is one with less options. You may not think so but it's true.
    Dude this is a tremendous ignorance! Lemme be extreme a bit...so you mean that if we had 1 mage class, 1 melee class, 1 ranged class, 1 gatherer and 1 crafter it would be a better game...i'm just removing options you see? Its just a nonsense, man!

    People is differente...so the more options you add the better the chance of everyone finding something they like there. I'm all up for a better balancing regarding old system...i'm still trying to keep hope up regarding battle team noticing they can do it perfectly....after all, as FFXIII player, i know Hope is always the last one to die! (sorry...but i just love this phrase! lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    It won't happen. Stop asking for AA toggle. The perfect game is one with less options. You may not think so but it's true.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pong
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    that was your own post. you say one way is always superior and pointedly state on the normal mobs we fight on a daily basis the old system is better. you say it may not be better in long fights, but since even late in the fight with low stamina it took less time to attack than the cool down timers and auto attack then it is still better.
    Superior as in the player can frontload a ton of abilities with a full stamina bar, making short fights easier. That has nothing to do with superiority from a design perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    Dude this is a tremendous ignorance! Lemme be extreme a bit...so you mean that if we had 1 mage class, 1 melee class, 1 ranged class, 1 gatherer and 1 crafter it would be a better game...i'm just removing options you see? Its just a nonsense, man!

    People is differente...so the more options you add the better the chance of everyone finding something they like there. I'm all up for a better balancing regarding old system...i'm still trying to keep hope up regarding battle team noticing they can do it perfectly....after all, as FFXIII player, i know Hope is always the last one to die! (sorry...but i just love this phrase! lol)
    Do you realize that implementing an Auto-attack toogle would require to also reimplement the stamina bar? The stamina was what limited the amount of attacks you could spam. with that gone we could just spam to the nausea.
    That is not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    Do you realize that implementing an Auto-attack toogle would require to also reimplement the stamina bar? The stamina was what limited the amount of attacks you could spam. with that gone we could just spam to the nausea.
    That is not going to happen.
    No it isn't. The stanmina bar and the action cooldown are exactly the very same thing...the difference is, basically, that recast timers areare like you having mini stanmina gauges...one for each action and you using all the gauge when you use that action...once you understand the mechanics its pretty easy to see they are pretty identical...the recasts are just "easier" for players to control.

    Want the old stanmina gauge converted to recast (which isn't even needed)? Give player a cooldown counter where you can store up to 10 minutes of cooldown. Once you use an action, you consume the cooldown from this stored value in order to have the action ready again...if you don't have enough time stored you can't use it.

    You see...i'm in no way asking stanmina gauge back...i do think just the cooldown is enough and that stanmina gauge was a redundant restriction...it was like having 2 recasts on WS and spells...on individual recast and one shared recast. It does was a bit troublesome to control in a MMO game (if this mechanic was used in an offline game it would certainly work way better...because what killed stanmina bar was the server latency...people just would think a command failed due lag or something and use it again).

    This game does can have AA toggle without the stanmina gauge or any other restriction other than cooldown. That's what the basic attacks are there for...just go play ARC a bit and you will see a class with AA off in the current system ^^
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    There is no need to re-implement the stamina bar.

    What I'm hoping for is a simple setting to turn off auto attack while leaving everything else as-is -- meaning my character will not attack or do anything at all, unless I intentionally select some other action from the action bar.

    For example, one big frustration right now is having auto attack kick in and whacking the monster with my jade crook right after I cast Sleep on it. ><
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    Lienn Deleene
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikita View Post
    There is no need to re-implement the stamina bar.

    What I'm hoping for is a simple setting to turn off auto attack while leaving everything else as-is -- meaning my character will not attack or do anything at all, unless I intentionally select some other action from the action bar.

    For example, one big frustration right now is having auto attack kick in and whacking the monster with my jade crook right after I cast Sleep on it. ><
    Indeed. I already did this so many times now every time i play mage i just keep target locked on myself and seek monsters with sub-target only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikita View Post
    There is no need to re-implement the stamina bar.

    What I'm hoping for is a simple setting to turn off auto attack while leaving everything else as-is -- meaning my character will not attack or do anything at all, unless I intentionally select some other action from the action bar.

    For example, one big frustration right now is having auto attack kick in and whacking the monster with my jade crook right after I cast Sleep on it. ><
    Instead of asking for a toggle on/off the AA, why don't you just wait for the next patch where you'll be able to cast spells in passive mode so you will not attack your sleeping target? If really that is the only reason you are asking for a toggle.
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  9. #19
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    adding a toggle is pretty near impossible as it would break the mechanics that the devs worked hard on. There are more important things to worry about atm like jobs, chocobos, airships, (apparently water...) and the field in general.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Are you really serious? lol non sense
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