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  1. 08-08-2014 07:29 AM
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    Using the pretence that " Largest country in the world hence is the most spoken of all of them" is false and flawed beyond understanding economics. I am no professor on the matter nor am I going to look up regional facts but it is not the most used based of that pretence. If you are using that data to make a point, English is used more in the world then all of your rankings due to the face EVERY country in the UN (united nations) and others require English to be learned in grade school. It is the international language of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stridentzephon View Post
    Using the pretence that " Largest country in the world hence is the most spoken of all of them" is false and flawed beyond understanding economics. I am no professor on the matter nor am I going to look up regional facts but it is not the most used based of that pretence. If you are using that data to make a point, English is used more in the world then all of your rankings due to the face EVERY country in the UN (united nations) and others require English to be learned in grade school. It is the international language of the world.
    learnt =/= used. But that's beyond the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o3o View Post
    Most Spanish speaking country's are not very into mmo gaming or are just plain scary/3rd world places. So bbasically they would lose money translating it
    http://mmorpghispano.net/ This is a website for Spanish speaking mmo players from around the world. Also, I am sorry you think 3rd world countries are "scary."

    Quote Originally Posted by Stridentzephon View Post
    Using the pretence that " Largest country in the world hence is the most spoken of all of them" is false and flawed beyond understanding economics. I am no professor on the matter nor am I going to look up regional facts but it is not the most used based of that pretence. If you are using that data to make a point, English is used more in the world then all of your rankings due to the face EVERY country in the UN (united nations) and others require English to be learned in grade school. It is the international language of the world.
    I didn't say largest country, I said largest population (1.35 billion. 955 million of which speak Mandarin. 14.4% of the world population). Please read more carefully. Also, no the UN doesn't not make it mandatory to learn English everywhere...or anywhere for that matter.

    Also, I find it funny that some of you are focusing so much on Europe and North America when talking about the Spanish language. Forget about South America? Sony brags about how much they sell to that whole continent all the time. I have personalty visited Chile myself. I highly recommend going there at least once in your life. Great country with wonderful people.
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    EVERY country in the UN (united nations) and others require English to be learned in grade school

    That is... beyond wrong. Absolutely not true. In no way do all 193 countries in the UN require English to be taught, a very small number do.

    And even in those countries that do teach some English in school, in many its like Americans taking high school French --- doesn't mean they can speak French. To use a FFXIV relevant example: Try having a conversation in English with people in Japan --- outside of a small number who were interested enough to keep learning and using it, most Japanese cannot speak English.

    Spanish would make more sense to me than French or German, even just considering the NA and European players who speak Spanish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khyra View Post
    To use a FFXIV relevant example: Try having a conversation in English with people in Japan --- outside of a small number who were interested enough to keep learning and using it, most Japanese cannot speak English.
    This is wrong. Most japanese people can understand english well enough if written. And it's way enough to have basic conversations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khyra View Post
    Spanish would make more sense to me than French or German, even just considering the NA and European players who speak Spanish.
    French and German are the 2 main language apart from English for countless games in Europe release, I'm not sure why
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    This is wrong. Most japanese people can understand english well enough if written. And it's way enough to have basic conversations.



    French and German are the 2 main language apart from English for countless games in Europe release, I'm not sure why
    French because it's spoken in many countries. German because it's the most widely spoken 1st language in continental Europe. spoken spanish just isn't that important in Europe.
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    Last edited by Yoninxi; 08-08-2014 at 11:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    French and German are the 2 main language apart from English for countless games in Europe release, I'm not sure why
    Since you don't know why, I'll enlighten you.

    Did you know Germany and France have LAWS that you can't publish a game in there unless it's localized? No?

    Well there you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    This is wrong. Most japanese people can understand english well enough if written. And it's way enough to have basic conversations.
    Incorrect - Most know the requirement to pass High School, only those interested in continuing it will know it towards a more fluent level. So she wasn't wrong at all. If you're throwing out quite a lot of "day to day" English, especially these days, they won't know what the heck you're talking about, just like not even native JP speakers understand the newer 'slang' style talking at times of their own language.

    It's like saying everyone in america knows spanish well enough if it's written if you chose not to continue it after your foreign language credit in middle/highschool - chances are you'll know bits and pieces but unless it's your native language, you can't legitimately tell me everyone who grew up in america knows spanish well enough to hold full blown convos from the little they learned to graduate without any further study.
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