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  1. #91
    Player
    Avatar de Sibyll
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    janvier 2014
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    438
    Character
    Sibyll Belmont
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Stihllodeing Voir le message
    That's true if the behavior is immediate and temporary. If it's a lasting trend, it very well does benefit the buyer ie (50,000-->49,0000-->47,500-->45,000-->40,000-->etc). Imo, adding a relisting fee to an economy that's already established trends and behaviors will do one of two things
    When I get 1 gil undercut I undercut them for a good percentage of the cost (ex: 500>499>450, or 150,000>149,999>140,000) because I don't have time to dance around relisting ten thousand times. I'd like to get the maximum amount of profit I can get for my item, but I don't see the point in spending hours to go from 250k to 150k in 1 gil increments when I could get there in 10 mins in 10k gil increments.

    That being said, I could see list fees back firing and hurting poor sellers at the expense of rich sellers. The point though is to discourage people from relisting items repeatedly. When the relist fee is non-existent there is nothing really stopping you from doing it other the amount of MB camping you are willing to do.
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  2. #92
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    Avatar de Stihllodeing
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    octobre 2014
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    Stihl Lodeing
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 24
    Citation Envoyé par Sibyll Voir le message
    ...snip... but I don't see the point in spending hours to go from 250k to 150k in 1 gil increments when I could get there in 10 mins in 10k gil increments...snip...
    Neither do I. It takes no time at all. I think people are mistaking diligence for time sink. There is far more discipline than time sink involved when keeping your prices current. I get what you're saying, I really do, but your statement is a bit of an exaggeration. It does NOT take hours, only minutes...if that.

    And also, I look forward to doing business with you and those of this mindset I will target your retainers and product to intentionally try and drive your price down, especially if we are competing over a product that moves well. I will then buy it and resell, or at least take the risk to do so.

    It's nothing personal, just business. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. It's all par for the course in free market economies.
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  3. #93
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    Avatar de Fargg
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    novembre 2014
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    2
    Character
    Grant Farglen
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 50
    the ffxi market system was backwards and obnoxious, you crazy

    please stop trying to make ffxiv bad so it can be more 'hardcore'
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  4. #94
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    Avatar de WizardShotTheFood
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    aot 2013
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    81
    Character
    Taba'sae Kason
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Occultiste Lv 50
    The only good "not-a-pure-AH" system in an MMO is the one in EverQuest II has. You can just buy stuff off the Consignment Market straight-up and pay the fee, or you can actually head out to the player's residence and buy it there without the fee.

    This wouldn't fix the OP's problem, but that's because the real problem is the OP.
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  5. #95
    Player Avatar de Kiyyto
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    avril 2014
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    Ul-Dah
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    Character
    Quint Thriceheart
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Élémentaliste Lv 60
    I always find it remarkable how people like the OP are publicly willing to state that they want SqEx to remove competition from the market, remove customer's ability to price out items and look for a better price, and demand that no seller be allowed to sell an item unless they get to sell theirs first.

    These threads are without a doubt the most entertaining and enlightening (some people's true nature) that I know of.
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  6. #96
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    Avatar de Flipside101
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    avril 2014
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    Character
    Flips Fordays
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 60
    I'd actually like a feature outside of AH.There are games (most of them are old) were no AH. It was literally a market place where sellers actually compete for space to park down a stall within a designated area. It gave such great immersion IMO; not just click and buy from a list. In fact, some have "market boards" that only actually gave you tickets to go to player housing to buy it.
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  7. #97
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    Avatar de RichardButte
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    mars 2011
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    Character
    Richard Butte
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machiniste Lv 90
    I play on Hyperion which is extremely crowded and the system is fine. Sure, I get undercut, but my stuff still sells anyway.

    If I decide to ignore the market for a week, I come back to find several million gil waiting for me. It'll sell. Just don't be impatient and you'll get your money.
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  8. #98
    Player Avatar de papichulo123
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    octobre 2014
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    udalh limsca
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    Character
    Frederick Chronos
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Orfèvre Lv 70
    how about allowing us to see how much the item has been selling for in the past month???
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  9. #99
    Player Avatar de papichulo123
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    octobre 2014
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    udalh limsca
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    Character
    Frederick Chronos
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Orfèvre Lv 70
    how about allowing a retainer to sell more then 20 things???
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  10. #100
    Player Avatar de papichulo123
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    octobre 2014
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    udalh limsca
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    Character
    Frederick Chronos
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Orfèvre Lv 70
    how about forcing people to see the sale history of a item before they post a item up themselves at whatever price they want
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