Scrap the marketplace system please

[Nicobo]

...by returning to the excellent system Final Fantasy XI...

I think in FFXI, all your same value item would be sold to NPC... ^^;

[Jican]

The marketplace isn't the issue, your community is. I suggest you either leave the price alone, sell in more lucrative amounts, or find something that has more demand than supply. It's YOUR choice to lower the price, and it doesn't amount to a broken system that you choose to lower it a million times in hopes that it will sell before the person that wants to uncut you lowers their prices.

[Sonofbaldo]

All they have to do is make the current prices invisible and problem solved.

[Eye_Gore]

All they have to do is make the current prices invisible and problem solved.

But doesn't that just create another problem, I mean how could you buy something if you can't see the prices?

[Nutz]

But doesn't that just create another problem, I mean how could you buy something if you can't see the prices?

Well in the FFXI system you spent a ridiculous amount of time tediously guessing at the list price. The system worked by having the buyer offer X amount of gil until they were at or over the list price of any of the available items. Whichever seller had the item listed lowest got the sale, regardless of what the buyer paid. In this system you could list for 1 gil to be assured that you item sold first and just hope that a buyer didn't try to buy it for lower than the going price, let alone the 1 gil you offered it for. The price history showed what people paid, not what people listed. Also there were listing fees and items expired after a week, so if you listed something very expensive and it didn't sell you'd be out a decent chunk of gil for nothing.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Also there were listing fees and items expired after a week, so if you listed something very expensive and it didn't sell you'd be out a decent chunk of gil for nothing.

That sounds absolutely terrible.

[Sibyll]

Also there were listing fees and items expired after a week, so if you listed something very expensive and it didn't sell you'd be out a decent chunk of gil for nothing.

So wouldn't a list fee stop people from 1 gil undercutting and possibly stop people from putting expensive items up for absurd amounts (for example as a means of storing things they don't have room for). This sounds like a decent implementation. The 1 gil undercutting is quite idiotic and just encourages people to market board camp.

I'm surprised they haven't allowed you to place offers for particular items. Seeing that an item is in demand doesn't really help the seller if the price the customer is willing to pay is too low for you. Couldn't you have your retainer buy out certain items as they are put up on the board similar to how the retainer sells your items?

No it doesn't.

Crafted gear is meldable.

The best gear is crafted+meld.

Free markets work better overall to move gil around, Sorry that you can't be a gilhorder in ff14, tough luck.

Even if crafted gear were better than raid tier (which I'm pretty sure it isn't) it's not worth the absurd cost to get those over melds on ever piece. Tome gear is as good for significantly less.

[Stihllodeing]

So wouldn't a list fee stop people from 1 gil undercutting and possibly stop people from putting expensive items up for absurd amounts (for example as a means of storing things they don't have room for). This sounds like a decent implementation. The 1 gil undercutting is quite idiotic and just encourages people to market board camp...snip.....

Not for me personally. I'll just absorb the margin.

I'm leveling all my crafters at once and my highest is 36. I have to sell crap . That's just the way it is. My bread and butter right now is selling triple turn in leve items and miscellaneous HQs. I have to push quantity most of the time. The way I'm pushing product is very similar to an assembly line.

Which is why I need top paged and check the market board as soon as I log on and as soon as I log off. I buy and resell a lot on certain days, and try to gear my production towards items I can use myself worst case scenario.

I almost always undercut by 1 gil. That's respectful to me. Because of threads like this, I started to undercut by 5-10 and even 100 gil because people for some reason seem to be offended by the "1 gil undercut of douchery" (which makes zero sense to me).

I'll go back and forth all day with a product I want to push out of my extremely limited inventory space. When I lose the battle I'll either: buy and resell/take my product off for storage or use/tip my hat, bow in respect, and say to you "Well played kind sir/madam....but I'll be back".

This is business. Unadulterated, mindless, brain numbing, number crunching business. This is common in any economy.

[Sensui]

All they have to do is make the current prices invisible and problem solved.

I liked this about the FFXI 'Auction House', you actually bid on it, usually referencing the Sale history, but sometimes a seller could have just tossed something up for 1 gil and you could get lucky lol.

[Squa11_Leonhart]

I liked this about the FFXI 'Auction House', you actually bid on it, usually referencing the Sale history, but sometimes a seller could have just tossed something up for 1 gil and you could get lucky lol.

nah, this would be terrible.

the only change needed as said earlier, is allow players to buy units from a stack.