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  1. #831
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandesaan View Post
    When I say second night, I am talking 24 eorzean hours after the moon has turned new. At midnight eorezea on the 1st of a month, new moon begins. Midnight the 2nd, Mindflayer will show up.
    Well he popped when ffxivhunt/garlandtools etc still didn't consider it a new moon night (aka I went to grab food when it listed it as 20 mins till new moon/0% and he was dead by the time I came back 30ish mins later) Is he supposed to pop on the night it hits exactly 0%?

    Croakadile usually pops on the night where it's 20 mins to full moon (although he can pop during the 20 mins where it's the 6-midnight time span) before it's considered midnight/100% hence my confuzzlement :<

    Are those full moon/new moon timers wobbling by one game night every so often?
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  2. #832
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leknaat View Post
    Well he popped when ffxivhunt/garlandtools etc still didn't consider it a new moon night (aka I went to grab food when it listed it as 20 mins till new moon/0% and he was dead by the time I came back 30ish mins later) Is he supposed to pop on the night it hits exactly 0%?

    Croakadile usually pops on the night where it's 20 mins to full moon (although he can pop during the 20 mins where it's the 6-midnight time span) before it's considered midnight/100% hence my confuzzlement :<

    Are those full moon/new moon timers wobbling by one game night every so often?
    I don't know how those tools think the moon phase works, so I can't tell you really. I go based off calculations where you find the Eorzean date, and know the phases based on http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Time. For instance, as of this posting it is 20:26:01 Eorzean on the 8th month, 13th day.
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  3. #833
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    A minor note about Laideronnette: If it happens to rain three 8-hour times in a row, it doesn't spawn until the third one. I've only confirmed/seen it once as it's hard enough to get it to rain twice. I'd suspect it's always the last one if it rains two or more times.
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  4. #834
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rommie View Post
    A minor note about Laideronnette: If it happens to rain three 8-hour times in a row, it doesn't spawn until the third one. I've only confirmed/seen it once as it's hard enough to get it to rain twice. I'd suspect it's always the last one if it rains two or more times.
    That's interesting! I've observed tripled rain twice, and one of the times the cooldown wasn't up until 12 minutes into the second rain, so it didn't spawn till the third due to the random time assignment. The second one, however, it spawned during the second rain.
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  5. #835
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rommie View Post
    A minor note about Laideronnette: If it happens to rain three 8-hour times in a row, it doesn't spawn until the third one. I've only confirmed/seen it once as it's hard enough to get it to rain twice. I'd suspect it's always the last one if it rains two or more times.
    I also confirm that. On 1st April, I don't know if any of you remember that day, but it rained 4 times in a row and in Moogle (I'll talk only about my server though) Laide spawned only during the last rain.

    About all the edit... I don't know if it's my english the problem (since I'm not native speaker) but I sometimes don't really understand what you mean Vandes,

    "The time since the hunt mark died will be your respawn time. "
    this sentence for exemple. Are you saying that we can predict the correct next spawn just by knowing the previous kill ? I mean, we can avoid running around for hours to spawn Nandi, or doing leves for hours before Lampalagua spawns ? o_O
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  6. #836
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarukiba View Post
    Are you saying that we can predict the correct next spawn just by knowing the previous kill ? I mean, we can avoid running around for hours to spawn Nandi, or doing leves for hours before Lampalagua spawns ? o_O
    Uh... yes? This has been the hunt basics since July 2014. How did you not know this for almost 12 months?
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  7. #837
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandesaan View Post
    Uh... yes? This has been the hunt basics since July 2014. How did you not know this for almost 12 months?
    Didn't mean it that way. I mean, for exemple, Nandi's window just opened. Knowing the chances are super low for it to spawn withing the next 10 minutes, let's say we wait 2 hours. And then, we start trying to spawn him : could take 10 minutes, could take 5 hours. I mean "the exact" timer of the spawn, not when the windows is "supposedly" open, so we can avoid the "maybe" 5 hours of trying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarukiba View Post
    Didn't mean it that way. I mean, for exemple, Nandi's window just opened. Knowing the chances are super low for it to spawn withing the next 10 minutes, let's say we wait 2 hours. And then, we start trying to spawn him : could take 10 minutes, could take 5 hours. I mean "the exact" timer of the spawn, not when the windows is "supposedly" open, so we can avoid the "maybe" 5 hours of trying
    Right. There's no way of knowing the randomly assigned spawn timer for the S ranks, but we have a sort of inkling of the absolute maximum the spawn timer will go to before the next attempt at an S rank cause a spawn to happen. This is number is achieved from looking at the collection of data from just how long it takes for the various S ranks to show up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandesaan View Post
    Right. There's no way of knowing the randomly assigned spawn timer for the S ranks, but we have a sort of inkling of the absolute maximum the spawn timer will go to before the next attempt at an S rank cause a spawn to happen. This is number is achieved from looking at the collection of data from just how long it takes for the various S ranks to show up.
    Ok, thanks for answering, I thought it would be too easy to know which timer they got assigned after their spawn. Though, about Theda :
    Maximum respawn time: 64 hours
    A friend and I think the maximum respawn time is longer than that, it happened quite a few times already that Theda was spawning with more than 7 hours after its window opens. I could use yeserday for exemple, took us 11 hours before it spawns, even though we got a few judgerays before. We used to spawn it around the same time as Zona spawns but for the past 2 months it happened that Theda was missing for a couple of hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarukiba View Post
    A friend and I think the maximum respawn time is longer than that, it happened quite a few times already that Theda was spawning with more than 7 hours after its window opens. I could use yeserday for exemple, took us 11 hours before it spawns, even though we got a few judgerays before. We used to spawn it around the same time as Zona spawns but for the past 2 months it happened that Theda was missing for a couple of hours.
    Are you using a tracker that thinks the respawn timer of Theda is 58 hours? I can think of a number of ways you can end up with 11 hours when someone's site thinks Theda is able to spawn much faster than usual because of maintenance reset respawn timers being very different.
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