Twintania

[HeroSamson]

Feedback on this fight.

Everything is fine up until you get to the dive bombs.

I don't know what kind of internet you have in the office playing with a dev team but try it with people from the actual game.

The radius and the time Twintania does her dive bomb is awful, even if you jump out of the way up or inward some how Twintania smacks you even after the ding, rarely you don't get hit but then others do? even close to the deathwall people get hit because that pulsating ding to them comes late.

Conflagration another thing I was standing far out of the ring and dping as a dragoon and was blown up by the fire whirl and a blackmage also we both were outside of the blast trying to kill this Conflagration.

Then the snakes exploding plus dive bombs that have a huge radius knocking us into flames.

I don't die much in the run but others do because either they play on ps3 and or have bad connection or latency issues.

Like I said maybe you guys should play with others and test this out not at the office with perfect connection.

I am not one to complain about dungeons cause I like a challenge but this is like putting us in a party that some people aren't capable of doing such a run with a bad pc, ps3 or without good connection.

I am gonna keep going at it but I really not enjoying the fight, its fun for a while till you die 50 times cause nobody can get it down packed.

Oh and for the ones who come in here and say PF the fight, doesn't fix the problem for the ones who are having those issues.

[Kyana]

It's been like that from the start, but at some point SE managed to improve the latency issues a bit.
Not enough for everyone though.
I agree that it makes a big difference if you play on a far away server or have a slow connection.
Echo buff doesn't help with this either.

What they could do is slowing the game down a bit instead of, or in addition to echo buff.
0,05-0,1 seconds for each echo buff would give people a max of 0,25s-0,5s more time for mechanics.

[HeroSamson]

Its the dive bombs mostly, they come down as soon as you hear the "Ding icon" most people don't get that right on time causing everyone to get hit.

I just tried it with my tank we got to the birds but still died due to the fact can you guess it someone lagging out do to latency issues.

though we were getting hit by dive bombs a lot didn't matter if we all ran at the same time or was very close to the death wall.

crazy.

[HeroSamson]

My suggestion would be to slow up those dive bombs a little bit.

One nobody can get next to the wall inside after Twintania flys up into the sky, always someone is late who gets the icon and shoves everyone into the death wall.

Twintania is also too high in the sky to pin point which way it dive bombs, I am zoomed out of the map and cant even see Twintania or which direction its facing, doesn't matter anyways cause before you can look it dive bombs and kills everyone so basically everyone runs with their heads chopped off and if done right still die from snakes cause twintania wants to dive bomb more.

Dive bombs too fast.

Point of View of Twintania is out of the screen.

[KidSerge]

Let me say, I get where you are coming from. It was difficult to learn it when i started, but sadly dude i don't think they will be changing this fight anymore. Plenty of people can do it, that's why they stopped increasing the echo on it awhile ago, and i think they did increase it one more time after that even. It's just gonna take some time but you will have to weed out the people that can not do the fight for whatever reason, be it lag, or personal skill, and try to replace them. You're gonna get it eventually.

[makaidranix]

I've given up on t5 and ex primals till I move house and get a better connection, I have to be pre-emptively moving to miss titan hm mechanics or I will get hit, and if you have to do that I ex from what I've heard you're going to ko the raid. Hm even lands before he's jumped on my screen a few times so I have to pay attention to the hp bar.
If I'm struggling on the I'm not even trying twin until I have a better connection. I think it sucks that higher level fights in this game test my internet more than they test me.

[Seyrin]

There's a VERY easy thing about Twintania I'm gonna tell all of you.

Her divebomb timers client sided, and if you set her as your focus target, when she leaves the map it vanishes, but when she's back to sweep for a bomb the focus target appears right away, so the second you see her appear on you focus target window you run out then immediately back in.

I had the WORST time with that, but know this, even if you're lagging out, your games still sending the info, so if you move to dodge the dive bomb the server will recognize this, your client will just need to catch up with the data.

[Seyrin]

There's a VERY easy thing about Twintania I'm gonna tell all of you.

Her divebomb timers client sided, and if you set her as your focus target, when she leaves the map it vanishes, but when she's back to sweep for a bomb the focus target appears right away, so the second you see her appear on you focus target window you run out then immediately back in.

I had the WORST time with that, but know this, even if you're lagging out, your games still sending the info, so if you move to dodge the dive bomb the server will recognize this, your client will just need to catch up with the data.

Forgot to add, Twintania divebombs in the direction someone's facing, so she targets a player with a green marker and that's the direction she swoops through in.

[Yumi_umi]

I was having trouble back then with the latency and timing so what i did was to just go in the 1st ditch.
There are 2 ditches near eachother but r far enough that twin won't hit both ditches.
So if you and others r having trouble i suggest u bresk from the group and go in ditch #1 while everyone else is in ditch #2 ( the usual ditch everyone goes in )
Regroup with them after 3 dives to dps snakes then go back to ditch #1.
It's foolproof and you won't be gimping dps due to everyone overgearing and the echo buff.
Ppl did this in DL gear so no gimp excuses.
Alive party > dead party

[Mapleine]

Twintania is an extremely easy fight with current ilvls and echo, IMO. That said, for the sake of casuals, they may as well just nerf it, it's not really relevant content anymore.

Her divebomb timers client sided, and if you set her as your focus target, when she leaves the map it vanishes, but when she's back to sweep for a bomb the focus target appears right away, so the second you see her appear on you focus target window you run out then immediately back in.

Everyone needs to be focusing her anyway, if just for Twisters.