So resetting's against the rules now?

[ispano]

The person who gets hate to reset it by the way would have gold contribution anyway.

Again, this is false. Once it resets, he loses all of that, because it resets. Not to mention being on top of the enmity list the whole fight and/or having claim does not guarantee full credit. I've personally tested it.

That possibly was there for a reason. Very rarely do you get CCd and have no chance of making any contribution again before it dies.

Doesn't matter. The intent to reset, regardless of why you think you're doing it is intent to harm those who are already fighting it.

[Aegis]

Doesn't matter. The intent to reset, regardless of why you think you're doing it is intent to harm those who are already fighting it.

If they get gold credit still, they have not been harmed. The intent to reset is the intent to help others with the awareness you may potentially hurt others.

[Enkrateia]

If they get gold credit still, they have not been harmed.

The intent to disrupt another customer's game play does not require that the attempt to disrupt another customer's game play was successful. This could still be reported and investigated.

[ToffeeCoffee]

The issue is that Hunt linkshells think they are a law unto themselves.

Open world mobs are there to be attacked.
The Hunt was not designed exclusively for linkshells full of people who have decided the content belongs to them and they get to oversee and govern how it works.

None of you have any right to corner this content as you see fit at the exclusion of everyone else (resetting/abuse/blacklisting/singling out individuals). Passing this behaviour off as for the supposed greater good is no excuse.

Hunt linkshells should all be shut down by SE and the system reworked to run as originally intended, light party (B), full party (A) and multiple parties (S). I've still never killed my weekly mark, stupidly running around looking for it while unbeknownst to me, the same people were scouting and farming it (some using illegal means) all day every day for 5 seals a pop. The Hunt is not there so you can entitle yourself to every single spawn and make others wait so you can maximise your iLevel for content you'll potentially never touch in 2.4.

SE really is to blame for letting this behaviour perpetuate however.

[Thayos]

"Intent" so far has been the hotword of the night, and sadly, I feel it doesn't accurately resolve the situation.

I don't think we should be waiting for SE to solve this problem for us. It's a gray area. It's up to us as a community to use our best judgment and to not fly off the handle when things don't go our way.

Also, it's just a game.

Yikes. What you just described IS intent to disrupt. By saying "I did it to help the group that's not here yet get credit" and thinking you did nothing wrong, you intentionally IGNORE

Yikes... what you're saying here is so inherently flawed.

[ispano]

Yikes... what you're saying here is so inherently flawed.

Then explain why it's flawed. Because that IS what happens.

[Thayos]

Resetting a mob so another group has more time to get there, while you may be intending to do good by the group that's not there yet, you are harming those that were already fighting.

Then, by your logic, people who do resets are also choosing to potentially harm themselves in hopes of benefiting the greater good.

See, it's not so black and white... which is why SE is emphasizing intent above all else, as they should.

A good reset easily results in more people being helped than being harmed. There's no denying this. In addition, people who are playing the content as intended and grouped into parties are almost always likely to still get full credit if they're already there. I run hunts all the time; I know this first-hand.