So resetting's against the rules now?

[Eidolon]

Snippers~

My entire team, IIRc, was there for the mark. The reason I reset was to help people. Again, kindly do not be so insulting or insinuating - it is neither good for productive conversation, nor is it a benefit to either of us to speak in such a manner.

Not only that, keep in mind - some of my own members were hurt by the action, because -they- were petrified (Scroll down and you'll see where one of my party members were frustrated by it.)

Greed is not determined by the intentions of otehrs, as you would seem to believe. It is determined by the intention of the self. That is inherently why it is called greed.

Lastly, the forums discussing a topic is kinda surprising to me - I haven't seen it at all on my end.

[DeceptionsWrath]

I have reported 2 people for resetting and the last GM I spoke with said people can be suspended for such actions. I'll continue to report any who reset hunts that I have found and am currently fighting. These Linkshells that feel they can take any hunt they want and bully smaller hunting groups for their own gain are certainly in for a wakeup call.

[UltimateAoe2]

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You are going way too far with this.

[Ashkendor]

it's in an effort to help people.

Honestly, I think resetting in an effort to help is a little misguided. You may help the people that didn't get to the mark on time, but what of the people that were already fighting it? We already know the marks with larger models often have issues with disappearing once a bunch of people pile into the area. If someone's been there fighting the mob and you reset it so the zerg horde can show up to it, who's to say that everyone in the original group can even target the mob once it resets? Who's to say that once all those people pile on, they will be able to get full credit? I've had times where a mob has been reset and my subsequent participation reduced me to the minimum reward.

I found someone soloing the Leech King in Mor Dhona a bit ago; they had it at about 60%. I could have gone over and wrested aggro away from them and reset it, I suppose. Instead I sent out a shout to the zone then joined them. The fastest few got there and thanked me for the shout. A few people complained about the "fast pull" to which I answered that the mob was half dead when I shouted. *shrugs* Even when people are working together to find the marks, hunting is always going to be somewhat competitive in nature.

when you reset it is out of greed and greed only, people not there think they deserve credit, so even if you aren't the greedy douchebag that think you are entitled to every mark that spawns, you group with said douchebags, you help them, and you benefit from them, so in my eyes you are the same, and I have a term for it, it is douchebaggery by receiving.

That's... going a little far. I don't think everyone that resets a hunt mob does it because they're greedy. I think some people genuinely think that they're helping. It's kind of a no-win situation all around, though. You've got the people that didn't make it that are going to raise an enormous hue and cry on shout if you don't reset it, and you've got the people that DID make it whose participation you completely nullify if you do reset it.

Since resetting it can get you reported and leaving it alone can't, well you can guess which I do. >.>

[Ahmbor]

it is a hunt, not a waiting queue...

[Eidolon]

Honestly, I think resetting in an effort to help is a little misguided. You may help the people that didn't get to the mark on time, but what of the people that were already fighting it?

Mmmhm. This I can see as a good point - usually if someone's there from the start, it means if they have the 8 people they need to be able to get maximum contribution they will. But even so, I don't think I've ever seen a case where I lost contribution due to a reset (Or rather, my team was able to maintain it) but in a smaller party, it could definitely be such a rough situation.

I'll probably stop resetting from here on out. It's better not to put your own self at risk to help others. 'Can only help others once you can help yourself', right?

[Mcshiggs]

That's... going a little far. I don't think everyone that resets a hunt mob does it because they're greedy. I think some people genuinely think that they're helping.

Read the entire sentence, I said even if you aren't the greedy one, you are doing it to help the greedy one, so the reset was still caused by greed, even if it's not the greed of the one that reset it, the reason ultimately behind it was so the greedy person that thinks they deserve credit on everything that spawns in the world could get there for credit.

[Eidolon]

Read the entire sentence, I said even if you aren't the greedy one, you are doing it to help the greedy one, so the reset was still caused by greed, even if it's not the greed of the one that reset it, the reason ultimately behind it was so the greedy person that thinks they deserve credit on everything that spawns in the world could get there for credit.

This implies your reason for pulling was motivated by a singular person, one who's only purpose was fufillment of the self. This is not the case, in any scenario. :P

[Ashkendor]

Read the entire sentence, I said even if you aren't the greedy one, you are doing it to help the greedy one, so the reset was still caused by greed, even if it's not the greed of the one that reset it, the reason ultimately behind it was so the greedy person that thinks they deserve credit on everything that spawns in the world could get there for credit.

I did read it. That doesn't change the fact that throwing the term "douchebag" at people that are making an effort (albeit slightly misguided) to help people make it to the mark is going a little far. o.o

The only way I know to get less reward is if you arent in a group with at least 6 ppl. And well hunting was meant for parties so its kinda your own fault that youre trying to get full points solo.

Just my opinion

B ranks are light party content. A and S are full party content, but who's to say that two people didn't just drop from your party cause their moms called them to dinner or they had work/class? It's not always easy to find replacements before the mob dies so that everyone in your party can get full credit. Even if you DO have a full party, if there are enough people at a mark (especially those with larger models) you run into rendering issues where members of your party may not even be able to see the mob.

[Kiara1]

I find it weird that resetting is called harrasment, in that case early pulling should be called that too.

My thoughts about this is that if its possible in the game it shouls be allowed. If SE dont like it they should change the mechanic (like, the hunt doesnt get max hp back when its reset, enmity to 2nd highest or no possible way of resetting). I cant really read what the picture says cause im on my phone, but if its possible to report someone for it and it gets through its really weird. Its SEs responsibility to make it work. If its considered a glitch they shouldve fixed it weeks ago