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    Alipoprocks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Not taking into context that a vast majority of people already had plenty of Soldiery items when the patch went live thus making your point relevant only for fresh 50s.
    It is relevant to everyone. If there wasn't a soliery cap, a person could have all jobs geared 100+ right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    It is relevant to everyone. If there wasn't a soliery cap, a person could have all jobs geared 100+ right now.
    It isn't relevant to everyone but thanks for stating the obvious about why a cap exists, now care to explain how Soldiery cap affects people to actually get a full set of i110 in a short amount of time since a lot of people already had said items when the patch went live ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    It isn't relevant to everyone but thanks for stating the obvious about why a cap exists, now care to explain how Soldiery cap affects people to actually get a full set of i110 in a short amount of time since a lot of people already had said items when the patch went live ?
    Sure, as soon as you explain why that is a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    Sure, as soon as you explain why that is a problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    How to farm upgrade items ?
    Crystal tower => One/week, hard to get
    Coil => very hard to get, 2 sands/oil and 1 tomestone for a full run for 8 players
    Hunt => Sands and oils unlimited !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    See the problem ?
    I think we are making rounds here...
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    I don't see a problem at all with that. But I guess it is because I don't farm coil/ST for oil. If anything, SE balanced the game by making sands and oil available outside of coil.

    So I still don't understand why people complain about getting things or allowing other players to be able to get things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    I don't see a problem at all with that. But I guess it is because I don't farm coil/ST for oil. If anything, SE balanced the game by making sands and oil available outside of coil.

    So I still don't understand why people complain about getting things or allowing other players to be able to get things.
    Missing the point much ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Missing the point much ?
    Nope. Point is pointless.

    Do people really only do coil and ST for oil/UAT/sands? If so, then wouldn't they be thankful?

    People still do coil, see groups in PF every night. People do ST, haven't seen long queue times. So what exactly is the problem? So what if someone has 500 oils or sands? They are worthless and that person just wasted time.
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    Last edited by Alipoprocks; 08-07-2014 at 02:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    I don't see a problem at all with that. But I guess it is because I don't farm coil/ST for oil. If anything, SE balanced the game by making sands and oil available outside of coil.

    So I still don't understand why people complain about getting things or allowing other players to be able to get things.
    Oh now i understand why you like this system ^^

    Your speech sounds like " Well, now i have a broken and bad system, unfair with all other content and rewards. BUT is very usefull to me, so screw the logic"

    Well done.
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    So I still don't understand why people complain about getting things or allowing other players to be able to get things.
    people don't complain about getting things or allowing other players to be able to get things but
    - one event have a reward ratio 10 times bigger than anything else and then make everything else useless (easy fix that won't even slow i110 upgrades: remove tomestone from hunt)
    -people getting in 1 month what should have take 3 (time till 2.4), now they are left with 2h/week content to do for the next >2month, and since some already have several job i110 and maybe BiS if they were lucky in scoil they can just cancel subs until 2.4 since the soldiery loss will be obtainable in less than one week @2.4 with cap remove .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    I don't see a problem at all with that. But I guess it is because I don't farm coil/ST for oil. If anything, SE balanced the game by making sands and oil available outside of coil.

    So I still don't understand why people complain about getting things or allowing other players to be able to get things.
    Pleading ignorance is not a valid reason to dismiss valid arguments. Now that we know you're using circular logic, care to explain the magic of the Soldiery cap even though plenty of people had more than a handful of Soldiery items before the patch went live ? Or have you no logic whatsoever behind the claim and just hoped people would believe you ?
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