Vote Kick is completely broken in Syrcus Tower

[Coatl]

Thats been happening a lot on my server too. I've also seen players kicking people before the last boss to get the oil of time. Thats happen to me a few times too. Sometimes i get lucky and finish the last boss lol.

That's really vile.. I would not have even fathomed something like that happening over here.

[Lithera]

Thats been happening a lot on my server too. I've also seen players kicking people before the last boss to get the oil of time..

Vote kick before the final boss? I assume a partial FC premade where someone is being guaranteed the Oil drop so they vote kick the randoms at the end? Kind of silly for a drop that isn't guaranteed.

In any case there isn't much the devs can do. Vote Kick is working just fine and the limitations are there so people can't be even worse trolls and kick people after the chest pops or right near the end of the boss fight. What you guys should have done is asked the other allys to hold up a minute so the loot could autodrop. If that loot is still in the pool after a trash pull there's likely only a minute or less on the timer anyways.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

So sands of time might be coming in 2.38.... be prepared to get @#%$ed over indefinitely to this type of behavior LOL.

If this happens, unless Amon drops something I want, I'm letting the full time run out.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You're complaining about this now? You must not have done the Crystal Tower where kicking was the norm.

[Electrowitch]

Happened to me once. Simple: Communication. i wrote in alliance chat: Hey we have someone afk here right from the beginning(we just defeated second boss, been at amon). Can you please wait to pull till the loot timer expanded. 2 min pls. "sure np". waited. kicked. done. Talk to your raid, instead of bitching afterwards because no one said something.

[Aegic]

I agree. Perhaps either:

A-Make the time given to roll not so god awful long
B-After a chest is opened give players the ability to votekick ~20 seconds or so
C-If you ignore a resurrect you will be automatically booted
D-Create low participation requirements for individual roles such as
-DPS for fight is lower than 50= you cannot lot
-HPS for fight is lower than 50= you cannot lot
-Tank DPS for fight is lower than 20= you cannot lot
E-If you are locked out of X amount of fights you are automatically booted

There are more ideas out there, however maybe a combination of those and these ideas would be helpful.

[Lithera]

SNIP.

A would be good. Make it a bit shorter. B would be abused...this is what they're trying to avoid. Partial Premade boots a guy when they see the loot. C..you need to elaborate. You mean don't accept? What if I click NO by accident? Not a good idea. D invites trolls. Start the fight...lock people out...they cant roll.... E invites the same trolling.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

how about getting vote kicked right before the last boss for no reason, presumably because a group of ppl are in a party and have realised you are going to lot their precious oil. I'm going to start intentionally not lotting loot etc so that I can't be kicked. oh wait, except that ST is a waste of time and I've decided I won't be doing it anymore.

[Kinseykinz]

how about getting vote kicked right before the last boss for no reason, presumably because a group of ppl are in a party and have realised you are going to lot their precious oil. I'm going to start intentionally not lotting loot etc so that I can't be kicked. oh wait, except that ST is a waste of time and I've decided I won't be doing it anymore.

I haven't been vote kicked ever, but one thing people also do instead of vote kicking is they simply don't cast a lot on final boss forcing everyone who lotted to wait. People do this for mainly 2 reasons: some do it to 'help' their friends odds on getting the drop by holding up the loot drops and maybe pursuading 1-2 party members to just leave before it drops or to troll when they already have their item for the week (or just don't want one). I had one group be real jerks about it...others have done it, silently, but the jerk group went something like this:

Final boss is killed:

Oil + something else drops.

I lot on oil, right as battle ends.
About 30 seconds later, the (do nothing semi afk) tank we had in our group says 'Mind if I lot the oil?' (so since I already lotted on it, I couldn't pass it even if I wanted to)
Me: I already lotted on it, but you're more than free to lot Need on it too.
His Friend: Well, guess you'd like to sit here the full time then, because I have no pony in this race, I'm not passing until all you who lotted the oil leave and my friend gets it.
Me: No worries, I can wait too. (at this point, even if I rolled a 2 I'd wait....because I hate when people think they can bully a drop pass)
Tank/Tank Friend then proceeded until the last 2-3 seconds to insult, and taunt the handful of us still remaining (some did leave).
Me After a fair amount of taunting) Guys seriously, I rolled a 96, so your chances of out-rolling it are slim...so again, you're wasting your own time more than mine...at the end of this, odds are in my favor I walk away with the oil. So again, your choice, but I rolled a 96, I never promised you a drop, I hate bullies and I am NOT leaving.

-Now keep in mind, I don't expect people to leave just because I (honestly btw) tell them what I rolled as they have no way of knowing if I was honest about it or not until the loot actually drops...and people have been known to lie on the internet occasionally, so I don't blame them for waiting. But be good sports. Roll on gear/items if you want them and pass/leave if you don't.

Furthermore, SE SHOULD change it so that people who got their weekly drop no longer HAVE to pass/let the time run out for gear to drop. If you can't lot the item, the game should auto-pass for you. But the amount of bullying that happens over Oils can be unreal. (esp when you factor in 1. they actually drop fairly often and 2. you can form your own full-party and enter this instance = automatically your item if it drops and your pre-made agrees.)

[LineageRazor]

His Friend: Well, guess you'd like to sit here the full time then, because I have no pony in this race, I'm not passing until all you who lotted the oil leave and my friend gets it.

The fact that this was considered an actual threat is frankly hilarious to me. "Y'all better pass, or I'm going to waste your time for FIVE MINUTES!"

My response would've been, "That's cool. afk 5 min, gonna go grab a drink."