Please lower the GP cost of MIN/BOT "Ward" abilities

[SkyfangRauss]

title.

shard/crystal farming is beyond tedious, to the point where only bots are doing it.

shards/crystals are an integral part of the game.

the cost of the "ward" abilities should be no more than 200GP, preferably 100 or 150 GP

trying to level crafters without having to rely on the AH for overpriced shards is a pain in the ass of legendary proportions.

please lower the cost of the wards

[MeiUshu]

err...shards can be collected by your retainers..only aggregates you need to collect yourself. I hope that least one or two of your retainres are either botanist or Min?..

I know that my shards are collected by them I rarely, if ever went to collect those myself...also some leves do give shards..might be worth using those too...

Just me though.

Mei

[Thaliss]

Mei...same language as you but aggregat is Clusters in english

And for people into serious crafting, you use 1000 shards in a hour easily, so even with additional retainers it could only give you 240 shard in 40mn

Edit : it is 120 shards

For example Electrum ingots 5 wind shards. With 240 shards you produce 48 in quick synthesis it is 5mns....

Even leves, lvl 45 leves reward you 18 shards or if you are lucky it is 60 shards. And if even more luckiy it is on a triple turn in leve. Usually a leve costs around 20 shards so except when reward is 60 shards you are at a loss

System fine for you but you are not an heavy crafter.

[MeiUshu]

yes clusters, i was looking for the word couldnt remember it.


I agree, is all a question of moderation, and balance, while you use your retainers to collect shards and the likes, you can do other things with the time that you would spend in collecting shards.I will surely be less expensive then buying them yourself.

with 5 tokens and x/- 3h of retainer works you got your 1000 shards or so ....while you collect other stuff in that laps of time. Depends if you are willing to spend the tokens for it.


Of course, if you are a avid builder and the likes and unless you have millions to spend (I exagerate a little) you only have one other choice, is spend centuries to collect those shards yourself, so moderate the crafting based on the shards you have and restock it at a regular pace...can be an answer...

In the end, bid/ask is market wise, more people want a product more expensive it will be, and the more people are lazy the more expensive it will be and since this is a free market..........where bots arent really controlled as such...you really are stuck with very little alternatives...do like me, craft a little at a time and refill stocks as they lower with retainers or yourself... just me though


Mei

[Pterois]

SE specifically has someone (probably a whole team) who looks at all the money flow and scrutinizes the economy heavily to determine what kinda changes to make and how it will affect the game.

That being said i'm sure they have looked at the situation once or twice and realized what is happening. Just be aware that any changes made to increase crystal/shard gathering will also help the bots gather thus changing that whole market (and since it is a big part of our market even a small change might have big ripples)

I think SE's best bet here would be to lower the GP cost like you said, something that will not shift the market so drastically but something just good enough to help the real players out.

[Thaliss]

Or just change ward a bit for example at lvl 50 you get +4 shards +3 crystals +2 Clusters. Crystal not needed really an increase but seems more in tune.

[SkyfangRauss]

Mei...same language as you but aggregat is Clusters in english

And for people into serious crafting, you use 1000 shards in a hour easily, so even with additional retainers it could only give you 240 shard in 40mn

how do you get 240 shards in 40 minutes using retainers?

my 2 retainers can only bring back 15 shards each in 1 hour for a total of 30 per hour

[whiskeybravo]

how do you get 240 shards in 40 minutes using retainers?

my 2 retainers can only bring back 15 shards each in 1 hour for a total of 30 per hour

Math doesn't seem right. One retainer will bring back 30, (maybe it's a lv50 thing), at most 4 retainers would bring back 120/40 mins which is ~180 per hour

[SkyfangRauss]

Math doesn't seem right. One retainer will bring back 30, (maybe it's a lv50 thing), at most 4 retainers would bring back 120/40 mins which is ~180 per hour

and how do you get 4 retainers? I'm only allowed 2

[Thaliss]

yeah I was wrong, because I always send 2 retainers on shards so I always count by 60 shards

It is 120 max / 40 mn

and how do you get 4 retainers? I'm only allowed 2

You pay for them at mog station