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    Fiosha_Maureiba's Avatar
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    @Gor, I think it's what happens when you go after a party that has two scholars. You see the HP drop to 20%, then in 2 seconds, it's full. If you manage to damage him/her again, the full recovery happens again. And again and again, and at some point, the assaulting party starts to die (many assault parties I see are whm/sch or one healer).

    It creates the illusion that these two scholars are indestructible. And this often leads to one scholar getting a melee limit break in the face and the second getting his robe tossed over his head, bent over a pillar, and heavily violenced with lances, fists, and behemothian asslodes of fire magic before he can lustrate himself with vigoUr.
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    Khari Esme
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    Healers are op?

    Op do you mean getting interrupted every 2 seconds while trying to cast a heal? Healers are the first ones that usually get focused, locked down, and die first. If you aren't locking down the healer first just like in ANY pvp situation then you probably need to start doing so.
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    Tiir Seijuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarahx3 View Post
    Healers are op?

    Op do you mean getting interrupted every 2 seconds while trying to cast a heal? Healers are the first ones that usually get focused, locked down, and die first. If you aren't locking down the healer first just like in ANY pvp situation then you probably need to start doing so.
    I hope you're not a healer, because it's fairly easy to stay alive as one if there's at least another healer there with you. And yes, casting spells without interruptions isn't generally a problem for me either as long as there's another healer with me. Oh, healing isn't even my best class in PvP either. So all you Healer PvP mains have no excuse to dying in a party of multiple healers other than your own lack of skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeet View Post
    I hope you're not a healer, because it's fairly easy to stay alive as one if there's at least another healer there with you. And yes, casting spells without interruptions isn't generally a problem for me either as long as there's another healer with me. Oh, healing isn't even my best class in PvP either. So all you Healer PvP mains have no excuse to dying in a party of multiple healers other than your own lack of skills.
    I am actually a healer. Im a newer/ish player to the game. I usually play healers in all my PvP mmos. AND im usually the one that is last alive since all the other healers are usually dead ^_^. I didn't ask if healer was your best or worst class. I'm just saying in general that all healers get interrupted in casting a spell/heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarahx3 View Post
    I am actually a healer. Im a newer/ish player to the game. I usually play healers in all my PvP mmos. AND im usually the one that is last alive since all the other healers are usually dead ^_^. I didn't ask if healer was your best or worst class. I'm just saying in general that all healers get interrupted in casting a spell/heal.
    I know you didn't ask about it, I'm just saying that they aren't as "interrupted-prone" as you make them out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeet View Post
    I know you didn't ask about it, I'm just saying that they aren't as "interrupted-prone" as you make them out to be.
    Then obviously healer ISNT your best class.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    I think healers have lot stronger aoe healing than any other mmo and that is the problem for pug groups because everybody hit different target. But once u have coordinated team and you can swap fast between targets that should not be the problem anymore. I suggest using "/mk attack1" macro for marking and "/ta <attack1>" macro for targetting ur opponents once that is marked so u can do fast swaps.
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    People calling healing OP need to learn something.
    A healer SHOULD outheal at least a couple people, otherwise he is basically a wasted spot. Why would you want a healer if he can't outheal at least a couple people over a dps? It should take a coordinated effort (chain cc's, run around a cornor, attack a couple targets at the same time) to kill a healer or someone near him.
    A healer is not a master in dps (altough cleric stance is a nice boost) so having him nerfed in healing removes him from the game before it starts.

    Just coordinate in your party or at least look at what is happening around you and see how you can best get rid of that pesky robed bastard in the back.
    Yea i know its scary to think about working together but this is team pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    People calling healing OP need to learn something.
    A healer SHOULD outheal at least a couple people, otherwise he is basically a wasted spot. Why would you want a healer if he can't outheal at least a couple people over a dps? It should take a coordinated effort (chain cc's, run around a cornor, attack a couple targets at the same time) to kill a healer or someone near him.
    exactly. usually i don't die fast at all, but last night i went to Manor and Adder had an entire team of all ranged. I saw 4 bards and 4 blms. a warrior stunned me and they all focus fired me at once and i was damn near 1-shotted in seconds and there was nothing i could do about it. so yes, it takes a coordinated effort but it aint hard taking out a healer. the problem is pugs don't do that, they rather try to 1v1 some irrelevant class like a brd and leave the damn healers up and bich about things not dying and healers being op.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I think healers have lot stronger aoe healing than any other mmo
    you're reaching. if you ever played PvP in WoW, you would have experienced the annoying aoe heals from a Resto Druid's Tranquility, a Resto Shaman's Chain Heal or even worse, a Mistweaver Monk's Renewing Mist. Nothing like almost winning a flag only for one of those classes to show up and heal every gd thing back to full in one or two casts. then you have to kill everything all over again, including the healer(s) that seem to be immortal along with their healing totems that are one shottable but the healer can just recast them infinitely or hide them somewhere where its not immediately visible but it still heals their group. on top of that WoW PvP doesn't have the alliance party restrictions on healing like FFXIV does. it heals everyone and everything on the team. the aoe healing, and healing over all, in FFXIV is much much weaker than WoW for that reason on top of having almost every damn spell on an internal global cooldown when WoW doesn't have IGC's on many spells when you need an o-shit button. in fact that was my first thought when i started playing FFXIV that the healing classes overall were so weak and omg everything i need for an emergency is on a global cooldown. I played a Discipline Priest in WoW for 8 years which has weak aoe heals but it's Holy Priest counterpart could out-aoe-heal a WHM or SCH in this game with its pinky toe.
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