Unspiled Rotation Umbral/Frgrant

[mpd49]

I'm sure this is noobish, but need some help with my "rotation" when I do get to an unspoiled node to gather either HQ Umbral Rocks or Fragrant Logs. I have both Bot and Miner to the 370/332 requirements and have food to boost further. But what's the best rotation to use? I'm just smashing buttons until my GP is gone and I'm sure there is a smarter way to go about this. Assume I'm at South Shroud 2 AM slot 6 hunting for HQ Fragrant Logs - I can pass on Toil since I know it's slot 6 right? Do I then use HQ boost, Field Master to boost gathering or Harvest boost to increase yield? I seem to blow through the GP so I can't use them all. Advice / Tips on gathering HQ?

[Ashkendor]

Even though I know what slot something is in, many times I'll use Toil simply because clearing the slot does not count toward your gathers on the node for Deep Vigor/Brunt Force. The only times I don't use Toil is if I'm after a one-time gather (like seeds), clusters (then I use the respective elemental ward), or mass amounts of NQ (for crafting furniture or selling). If you use Toil then Unearth II/Leaf Turn II, that will use up 600 GP; if you aren't completely unlucky, you can get 5 gathers in a row and then use Deep Vigor/Brunt Force to get the guaranteed HQ on the last one. You could always use a +gathering food if you're having trouble getting 5 in a row.

[mpd49]

Exactly what I was looking for - thank you for the response.

[Odd]

The above post is bang on. At first, for me, it was very slow going. But once I got to 600 GP I was getting hq rocks/logs three times as fast. I now tell everyone who is serious about MIN/BTN to get to 600 GP ASAP!

[StouterTaru]

Lots of ways to go:
Toil - 300 GP
Ageless Words - 300 GP
Blessed Harvest II - 500 GP
Blessed Harvest - 400 GP
Field Mastery II - 100 GP
Field Mastery III - 250 GP
Leaf Turn II - 300 GP
Leaf Turn - 100 GP

Toil + Field Mastery III - +50% success rate, you'll get a HQ off brunt force at the end (550 GP)
Toil + Field Mastery II + Leaf Turn - +15% success, +10% HQ, chance at a brunt force (500 GP)
Toil + Leaf Turn II - 6 swings at 31%+ HQ chance, chance at brunt force
Toil + Ageless Words - 7 swings, chance at 2 brunt force swings
Blessed Harvest + Field Mastery II + Leaf Turn - 5 swings with +15% success, +10% HQ, and double payout per swing
Blessed Harvest II + Leaf Turn - 5 swings at +10% HQ, triple payout

All are 600 GP except the first two. I use the last one to farm up umbral rocks and fragrant logs, but I'm at 95% success rate and 5% HQ to start. It averages out to about as good as any other option, with tons of NQ to turn in for cordials.

[Ashkendor]

Lots of good info

Man, some people really put a lot of thought into it... Y'all are way better at math than I am. :3

[Thaliss]

If well melded with at least 620 GP(max meld is 635 GP) you could even do using +GP HQ food (max GP food is +30 GP):

Toil(300GP) + Field Mastery (50GP) + Leaf Turn II (300GP) = 650 GP : +5% success rate; +30% HQ chance, chance at brunt force.

[elizar2006]

Everyone is different. But for me being on my 10th hat for desynth..I go with muscle memory.

Hit Slot 6, Ageless Words(+1 Gathering), Leaf Turn II (+ 30% HQ), Hit 5 Times, IF lucky use Deep Vigor for guaranteed 100% HQ
Depending on gear can be from 31 - 38% HQ

Same applies to Miner just different skills names.

People will argue that Toil is the same as Hit Slot 6+ Ageless words, and they are correct.
Just what I use personally and not by any means the right way.

[Ashkendor]

Everyone is different. But for me being on my 10th hat for desynth..I go with muscle memory.

Hit Slot 6, Ageless Words(+1 Gathering), Leaf Turn II (+ 30% HQ), Hit 5 Times, IF lucky use Deep Vigor for guaranteed 100% HQ
Depending on gear can be from 31 - 38% HQ

Same applies to Miner just different skills names.

People will argue that Toil is the same as Hit Slot 6+ Ageless words, and they are correct.
Just what I use personally and not by any means the right way.

I don't think there's a right or wrong there. They both achieve the same result.

[LineageRazor]

I don't think there's a right or wrong there. They both achieve the same result.

There IS one difference: If a MIN/BTN has only 580-599 GP, they will not be able to use Toil + 30% HQ. However, they CAN use 30% HQ, gather four times, and then use +1 Gathering. This method gives folks without fully-melded gear a shot.